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04-12-2018 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
Sorry. I was trying to make a point that although what Mike does is wrong, I feel the guy is vilified on here by certain people like he is this arch criminal. I can find countless examples. Is someone like Kobe Bryant a better person than Mike? He was accused of rape and because he had lots of money and a celebrity, the case went away, a confidential settlement was paid and to most of the general public it's like nothing has happened. But he RAPED somebody. To me that is like scum of the earth. And then there is Borovetz who gives a stupid story to hopefully get money to feed his gambling addiction.

So who is worse? Money makes most problems go away. Because of basketball Kobe is a hero to lots of people but Borovetz to most on here is horrible, scum, evil, awful, the worst, etc. It just goes to show how skewed most of us are when rapists are glorified but sad addicts are demonized. That's life though and that's why I will never consider Mike to be this horrible scumbag like some do. He hasn't chosen violence to get money, he's not out there robbing banks. He's a sad degenerate gambler who is in bad shape right now. I feel sorry for him. I just don't see darkness in him when I read about his life and problems. I see a person who needs help. But he needs to make that decision not any of us.
I understand that General Wainwright in the Phillipines left us some money, if you send $200 in bitcoin to a certain blockchain address, his associate from Nigeria will forward a fortune ..... want in on this ?

No ? Why not ? Most scammers do not choose violence to get money, so you're cool with that ?

Okay, how about sending $100 then ?
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04-12-2018 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
He hasn't chosen violence to get money, he's not out there robbing banks.
Ok, so you don't have a problem with theft as long as there isn't violence involved. Others don't feel that way.
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04-13-2018 , 03:36 AM
What is he doing in New Jersey anyway? There are casinos in there nowadays?
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04-13-2018 , 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
Sorry. I was trying to make a point that although what Mike does is wrong, I feel the guy is vilified on here by certain people like he is this arch criminal. I can find countless examples. Is someone like Kobe Bryant a better person than Mike? He was accused of rape and because he had lots of money and a celebrity, the case went away, a confidential settlement was paid and to most of the general public it's like nothing has happened. But he RAPED somebody. To me that is like scum of the earth. And then there is Borovetz who gives a stupid story to hopefully get money to feed his gambling addiction.

So who is worse? Money makes most problems go away. Because of basketball Kobe is a hero to lots of people but Borovetz to most on here is horrible, scum, evil, awful, the worst, etc. It just goes to show how skewed most of us are when rapists are glorified but sad addicts are demonized. That's life though and that's why I will never consider Mike to be this horrible scumbag like some do. He hasn't chosen violence to get money, he's not out there robbing banks. He's a sad degenerate gambler who is in bad shape right now. I feel sorry for him. I just don't see darkness in him when I read about his life and problems. I see a person who needs help. But he needs to make that decision not any of us.

If you feel bad for him, and feel good that he is not a rapist then you can join all the others in that original thread who spent a lot of time (and in some cases money) to reach out and help him. In your mind you can continue to be a better human than those of us who believe rapists are bad, and also those who con naive victims at airports are bad, even if they are not identically bad, and a relative comparison of "badness" is a non-sequitur activity.

After you do that, send $100 as suggested above as well. You will feel better about yourself for doing the right thing as a human.

All the best.
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04-17-2018 , 11:46 AM
Wasn't Mike supposed to be in court today? He probably didn't show up but definitely wondering what happened. Most likely a warrant issued.
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04-17-2018 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
Wasn't Mike supposed to be in court today? He probably didn't show up but definitely wondering what happened. Most likely a warrant issued.
Some friend .... ...... How would you know ? Was a no-show part of your wife's great idea, interstate flight to avoid prosecution so he can appear on Dr. Phil ? Certainly would make for a more compelling appearance.

Did you ever send him the $100 folks itt suggested ?

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04-17-2018 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
Some friend .... ...... How would you know ? Was a no-show part of your wife's great idea, interstate flight to avoid prosecution so he can appear on Dr. Phil ? Certainly would make for a more compelling appearance.

Did you ever send him the $100 folks itt suggested ?
Didn't I read somewhere on here you are a lawyer? You sound like an incoherent doofus. Not even going to respond to any of this because it's too stupid.
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04-17-2018 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
Wasn't Mike supposed to be in court today? He probably didn't show up but definitely wondering what happened. Most likely a warrant issued.
Well if he had to fly to make his court apparence probably thought it was gto to just stay at the airport
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04-17-2018 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
Didn't I read somewhere on here you are a lawyer? You sound like an incoherent doofus. Not even going to respond to any of this because it's too stupid.
I have no idea what you've read on 2+2 or how much of it you understand.

Sorry if my post sounded like "an incoherent doofus", I was trying to communicate to you on a level you might comprehend.

("Comprehend" means "understand", by the way.)

Fwiw, iirc, you once wrote something to the effect you wanted to meet Mike and you'd be laughing .... well, I've met Mike and his compulsive issues and confessed struggles are not funny. OTOH, your posts are comedic gold.

Last edited by Gzesh; 04-17-2018 at 02:56 PM.
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04-17-2018 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
Sorry. I was trying to make a point that although what Mike does is wrong, I feel the guy is vilified on here by certain people like he is this arch criminal. I can find countless examples. Is someone like Kobe Bryant a better person than Mike? He was accused of rape and because he had lots of money and a celebrity, the case went away, a confidential settlement was paid and to most of the general public it's like nothing has happened. But he RAPED somebody. To me that is like scum of the earth. And then there is Borovetz who gives a stupid story to hopefully get money to feed his gambling addiction.

So who is worse? Money makes most problems go away. Because of basketball Kobe is a hero to lots of people but Borovetz to most on here is horrible, scum, evil, awful, the worst, etc. It just goes to show how skewed most of us are when rapists are glorified but sad addicts are demonized. That's life though and that's why I will never consider Mike to be this horrible scumbag like some do. He hasn't chosen violence to get money, he's not out there robbing banks. He's a sad degenerate gambler who is in bad shape right now. I feel sorry for him. I just don't see darkness in him when I read about his life and problems. I see a person who needs help. But he needs to make that decision not any of us.
Agree rapists are worse than non-violent scammers.

What about guys like Joe Mckeehen who ignores a random guys wife? Better or worse than Borovetz?
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04-17-2018 , 04:09 PM
What is this a race to the bottom? Trying to figure out your next crime but still trying to keep your sentencing under 10 years?
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04-17-2018 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
OTOH, your posts are comedic gold.
Correction: Comedic Silver at best. WellReadTed was on the podium for gold.
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04-17-2018 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
I have no idea what you've read on 2+2 or how much of it you understand.

Sorry if my post sounded like "an incoherent doofus", I was trying to communicate to you on a level you might comprehend.

("Comprehend" means "understand", by the way.)

Fwiw, iirc, you once wrote something to the effect you wanted to meet Mike and you'd be laughing .... well, I've met Mike and his compulsive issues and confessed struggles are not funny. OTOH, your posts are comedic gold.
Dude it's obvious you have some ****ing hard on for Mike since you first met the guy. Get over yourself. He is a small time fish in a huge ocean. There are lots of scumbags in this community that we sit and play next to every day. They just don't have the publicity that Mike does. But seriously man, get a grip. He gets money at airports through his words. Oh mylanta he is so evil. Let's tar and feather the guy shall we?
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04-17-2018 , 06:01 PM
First of all, Kobe Bryant was a high profile celebrity accused of rape one time. Myabe he did or didn't but I think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt. Now, Ben Roethlisberger on the other hand was accused of rape twice! After the first time as a high profile athlete I get accused of rape I'm having every woman sign a consent form...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Ro...lt_allegations
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04-17-2018 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
Let's tar and feather the guy shall we?
Nah instead lets just say "oh what he does isn't so bad" and try get Dr Phil to pay for his treatment LOL
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04-17-2018 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
Dude it's obvious you have some ****ing hard on for Mike since you first met the guy. Get over yourself. He is a small time fish in a huge ocean. There are lots of scumbags in this community that we sit and play next to every day. They just don't have the publicity that Mike does. But seriously man, get a grip. He gets money at airports through his words. Oh mylanta he is so evil. Let's tar and feather the guy shall we?
What if he scammed $200 off of your wife after not saying hi to her, would he then be worthy of being called a criminal? Seriously, you started a threat bashing Joe Mckeehan because he didn't greet your wife to your satisfaction, so obviously measuring levels of depravity in the world is not your strength.
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04-17-2018 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGreatCornholio
What if he scammed $200 off of your wife after not saying hi to her, would he then be worthy of being called a criminal? Seriously, you started a threat bashing Joe Mckeehan because he didn't greet your wife to your satisfaction, so obviously measuring levels of depravity in the world is not your strength.
Hey the troll is back. Welcome!
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04-17-2018 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
First of all, Kobe Bryant was a high profile celebrity accused of rape one time. Myabe he did or didn't but I think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt. Now, Ben Roethlisberger on the other hand was accused of rape twice! After the first time as a high profile athlete I get accused of rape .....
You are a high profile athlete ?

...the Oscar for best reductio ad absurdum goes to the self-proclaimed "Word Artist", formerly know as Rich.

Accepting the award for the Word Artist will be Michael Cohen, who is his friend but not his lawyer.
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04-17-2018 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TwitchySeal
What about guys like Joe Mckeehen who ignores a random guys wife? Better or worse than Borovetz?
McKeehan is history’s greatest monster.
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04-18-2018 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
Hey the troll is back. Welcome!
Thanks! Tell your wife hi! After all, I don't want a thread started about me.
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04-18-2018 , 02:36 PM
Oh good, another discussion in which the following argument takes place:

B is far worse than A. Therefore, A isn't all that bad.

It is the younger brother of another popular NVG discussion mechanism:

Player A is better than Player B. Therefore, Player B sucks.

(I call this latter scenario the "Hellmuth Corollary")

EDIT: by the way, can we see any of these "countless" examples in which Mike B is "villified as if he is an arch criminal?" I honestly did look (although I'll admit I didn't check the other thread). Most detractors in here are just saying he's scummy for what he does, which is perfectly fair; while a few people have actually attempted to reach out to help him.

Last edited by Wilbury Twist; 04-18-2018 at 02:42 PM. Reason: Added "countless," which may prove to be my undoing.
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04-18-2018 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
Oh good, another discussion in which the following argument takes place:

B is far worse than A. Therefore, A isn't all that bad.

It is the younger brother of another popular NVG discussion mechanism:

Player A is better than Player B. Therefore, Player B sucks.

(I call this latter scenario the "Hellmuth Corollary")

EDIT: by the way, can we see any of these "countless" examples in which Mike B is "villified as if he is an arch criminal?" I honestly did look (although I'll admit I didn't check the other thread). Most detractors in here are just saying he's scummy for what he does, which is perfectly fair; while a few people have actually attempted to reach out to help him.
For the record, if Player A is me, and I am better than Player B, then Player B does suck.

If Player B is far worse than Player A, who is me, that does not make Player A less bad.
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08-27-2018 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
Maybe EastCoastBalla should start a gofundme page to buy Mike a ticket to Vancouver and a small hammer ?
Airport hustler is two levels above, it would be big step back. Keep your class, Michael. He has gift identify rich guy with dementia in big crowd.
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08-13-2019 , 04:41 PM
He got arrested today in the Detroit airport

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...es/1998025001/
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08-13-2019 , 04:48 PM
lolll
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