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Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT* Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT*

01-24-2014 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jcasement
It is not uncommon to negotiate a surrender in order to avoid a public arrest. When a warrant is issued it is not uncommon to have a bond amount already in place, therefore the individual will know how much money he needs in order to post bond and be released. I have done this numerous times for clients.
I would assume you also inform your clients to say nothing, it's your job to do the talking.

If the poster is on the level, I would think he should be more worried about what his attorney is going to do to him, than what the state will do.
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01-24-2014 , 01:13 PM
I always tell my clients the only person that you talk to is me, no one else. I would not be happy if they posted on a public forum. Talking to others can never help your case, it can only hurt you.
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01-24-2014 , 01:22 PM
An attorney cannot STOP his client from being a moronic blabbermouth.

He can only wisely advise against it.
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01-24-2014 , 01:28 PM
True, but if they don't listen they may be shopping for a new attorney.
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01-24-2014 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jcasement
It is not uncommon to negotiate a surrender in order to avoid a public arrest. When a warrant is issued it is not uncommon to have a bond amount already in place, therefore the individual will know how much money he needs in order to post bond and be released. I have done this numerous times for clients.
yes, I have done this numerous times as well

unfortunately not for clients
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01-24-2014 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by alwayschillin19
whoever believes the guy that confessed on here, i would love to play with 9 of you at my poker table...
OK deal , you provide the table we'll provide the chips.
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01-24-2014 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FlapJacks316
"The Royal Flush"
Flap:

If this "story" is true (which I still doubt), the producers at CNBC who do "American Greed" are probably salivating over this made in heaven made-for-TV spectacle. I can already envision playing it as a "World's Dumbest Criminal" type caper. Portraying the scene where chips are flushed down Harrah's toilet will be irresistable. I can already hear narrator Stacy Keach Jr. intoning: "Realizing the gig is up and he will surely be caught, mastermind [whoever he is] desperately begins flushing $5 million worth of fake poker chips down the toilet. That plan backfires when Harrah's plumbing system clogs up." (Camera pans to Harrah's maintenance employees scratching their heads with bewildered looks as they extract "fake" Borgata poker chips from a huge vat of steaming sewage.)

This thing is shaping up as such a comedy that somebody in Hollywood is sure to make a movie. (Finally poker gets some of that "mainstream attention" that some folks have been craving ...)

I can't wait until Monday!
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01-24-2014 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by domda
OK deal , you provide the table we'll provide the chips.
LOL
PS. I will hold the buy-ins !
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01-24-2014 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Logical expectation is to find out before the Main Event starts. IE Sunday.

There is so much on the stake for Borgata and NJDGE.
Be real. If we are lucky enough to hear something in a week which I doubt It willbe more then a month before any decision is made. You are dealing with a state not a casino.
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01-24-2014 , 02:48 PM
i am one of the 27 remaining players left also,there is no way that prizes 450-29 were paid out and that the rest of us wont be, the question is when? the borgatas public relations manager (he gave the remaining players his card) is worthless, ive called and left messages three times this week with no responses is this how you treat your customers? sure there were counterfeit chips, that only made it harder for the rest of us to get where we are, we already had to return 2 days and in some cases had to cancel flights and pay for additional hotel rooms, will we also be compensated for this? add $600.+ the lack of communicating is the worst!!
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01-24-2014 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdadio48
i am one of the 27 remaining players left also,there is no way that prizes 450-29 were paid out and that the rest of us wont be, the question is when? the borgatas public relations manager (he gave the remaining players his card) is worthless, ive called and left messages three times this week with no responses is this how you treat your customers? sure there were counterfeit chips, that only made it harder for the rest of us to get where we are, we already had to return 2 days and in some cases had to cancel flights and pay for additional hotel rooms, will we also be compensated for this? add $600.+ the lack of communicating is the worst!!
The reasonable thing would be to pay you all 27th place in the interim. Then figure out later.
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01-24-2014 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
The reasonable thing would be to pay you all 27th place in the interim. Then figure out later.
Definitely agree. At the very, very least they could refund your $560. But to withhold everything at this point seems totally irrational. Yeah, its possible some of the cheaters could get paid, but those funds could be subject to seizure later I'd hope. The innocent must be paid something ASAP.
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01-24-2014 , 03:54 PM
As long as we are speculating wildly as to whether this guy's story could be legit:

What could the hypothetical reasons be for introducing fake chips to set someone else up, as he suggested?

Maybe a fake chip-possessing ring leader is owed a lot of money, so his horses try to get him busted to free themselves from debt? Or maybe it was good old fashioned spite or sour grapes against another cheater?

Of all the questions raised by that series of posts - the idea that this is a "setup" is the part I find most puzzling.
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01-24-2014 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jcasement
It is not uncommon to negotiate a surrender in order to avoid a public arrest. When a warrant is issued it is not uncommon to have a bond amount already in place, therefore the individual will know how much money he needs in order to post bond and be released. I have done this numerous times for clients.
He could simply be arranging options with a bail bondsman or family members in advance since he assumes that there will be a high bail set Monday. He never said outright that he knows how much the bond will be.
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01-24-2014 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by J_Phil
As long as we are speculating wildly as to whether this guy's story could be legit:

What could the hypothetical reasons be for introducing fake chips to set someone else up, as he suggested?

Maybe a fake chip-possessing ring leader is owed a lot of money, so his horses try to get him busted to free themselves from debt? Or maybe it was good old fashioned spite or sour grapes against another cheater?

Of all the questions raised by that series of posts - the idea that this is a "setup" is the part I find most puzzling.
If he's legit... it kinda sounds like he's the one that was set up.
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01-24-2014 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroRoller
If he's legit... it kinda sounds like he's the one that was set up.
Moderator Pl comment.

I have seen in the past that post that sounds like rumors/illegal were removed from the thread.
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01-24-2014 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroRoller
If he's legit... it kinda sounds like he's the one that was set up.
Yeah, the only thing that makes sense to me - assuming it was a setup - would be that a group of cheaters turned on one of their own. But even in that explanation, it's not abundantly clear how they thought that would only set up one person.
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01-24-2014 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by J_Phil
As long as we are speculating wildly as to whether this guy's story could be legit:

What could the hypothetical reasons be for introducing fake chips to set someone else up, as he suggested?

Maybe a fake chip-possessing ring leader is owed a lot of money, so his horses try to get him busted to free themselves from debt? Or maybe it was good old fashioned spite or sour grapes against another cheater?

Of all the questions raised by that series of posts - the idea that this is a "setup" is the part I find most puzzling.
maybe the guy doesn't play poker, but makes fake chips and sells them to cheaters - and has multiple customers
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01-24-2014 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jlozan84
yes, brian brennan was his name
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01-24-2014 , 04:45 PM
Becauseican are you one of the final 27?
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01-24-2014 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by J_Phil
As long as we are speculating wildly as to whether this guy's story could be legit:

What could the hypothetical reasons be for introducing fake chips to set someone else up, as he suggested?

Maybe a fake chip-possessing ring leader is owed a lot of money, so his horses try to get him busted to free themselves from debt? Or maybe it was good old fashioned spite or sour grapes against another cheater?

Of all the questions raised by that series of posts - the idea that this is a "setup" is the part I find most puzzling.
Phil:

I'm already on record saying I think this guy's "confession" is bogus. However, if it is true, one thing another poster mentioned might make sense. If you take this guy's "story" at face value, he does seem to realize he could be facing a long prison stretch - like say 10-20 years - as he has managed to p*ss off a lot of powerful folks who are determined to make an example out of him. One poster has suggested that by going public (anonymously) here on 2+2, this guy is attempting to pre-negotiate a plea bargain deal. (If he's actually telling the truth, who really knows? He may have even broached the possibility of doing this with his lawyer who might have agreed "... provided you do it under a pseudonym and don't post your real name." That's one possibility.

He also dropped an intimation to the effect that some unnamed individual might be "... in danger of physical harm" if he says (or reveals) too much here on 2+2. This caper is already crazy enough, (with the flushing of chips down the toilet and everything else), but if one of the participants/conspirators were to suddenly wind up whacked - as in Tony Soprano style - that launches this baby into the stratosphere. (If somebody does wind up being physically harmed, this spectacle is headed for Court TV.)

I still think we're being trolled, but if not, people all around the country will definitely be talking about poker.

Last edited by Alan C. Lawhon; 01-24-2014 at 05:11 PM. Reason: Minor edit.
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01-24-2014 , 05:19 PM
^^^^^ confirmed. The illuminati and the skull and crossbone members are scheduling an emergency Bilderberg conference this weekend to specifically address this tournament.
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01-24-2014 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
^^^^^ confirmed. The illuminati and the skull and crossbone members are scheduling an emergency Bilderberg conference this weekend to specifically address this tournament.
Getting old for sure😩

Did not get the joke😡
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01-24-2014 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
The reasonable thing would be to pay you all 27th place in the interim. Then figure out later.
that would be okay for now, but when you come this far with this being the most most entrants ever on the east coast you have a chance to be #1, there would be so much satisfaction in accomplishing this, the adrenaline was flowin and i was getting chills, damn that was a great feeling for a short time. now it feels like were being robbed from the whole experience, big letdown ill tell ya
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