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01-19-2014 , 08:38 PM
Borgata "Fake Chips" Thread Sets A New 2+2 Record?

I have no idea what the actual record is, but I have a feeling this thread has set the record for most "Strangers" (with 6 or fewer posts) posting to a thread.
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01-19-2014 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan C. Lawhon
Borgata "Fake Chips" Thread Sets A New 2+2 Record?

I have no idea what the actual record is, but I have a feeling this thread has set the record for most "Strangers" (with 6 or fewer posts) posting to a thread.
Not a chance
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01-19-2014 , 08:41 PM
I do think it's kind of messed up Tab is just casually tweeting when one of the biggest poker scandals has taken place in his "house". He hasn't even offered a half-ass apology
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01-19-2014 , 08:42 PM
My sources say that We may be seeing that last of Men the master for a while. I am told they are narrowing in on a group of six and Master is one of them.
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01-19-2014 , 08:42 PM
more tilt-inducing .... Alan Lawhon or Doc T River?
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01-19-2014 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by trob888
Source?
That's the one thing that keeps drawing me to this story like a moth to a flame - waiting for the New Jersey police to make an arrest. When/if they do make an arrest, I hope it's not a "respected" member of the poker community that we had all looked up to - that would be devastating ...

Does anybody know if Russ Hamilton was playing in this event?
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01-19-2014 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FRYTWO
I do think it's kind of messed up Tab is just casually tweeting when one of the biggest poker scandals has taken place in his "house". He hasn't even offered a half-ass apology
I do agree with this. If they aren't giving any further statements, it's a bad PR move to be tweeting about football.

I also think they should be giving more updates, even if the updates are, "We have nothing new to report yet, the investigation is ongoing and we will provide any available additional info in 24 hours." At least that tells us that they know we're all still waiting for info.
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01-19-2014 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ohsnapzach
I don't know if it's the lighting but I don't see the new sparkly 5K chips so I'm guessing: (a)the fakes were either made to mimic the old 5Ks and strangely you didn't accumulate any official sparkly new ones, (b)the sparkly chips were the ones counterfeited and they pulled/replaced them all from remaining stacks at some point and continued play?

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Originally Posted by TeamEdwardsPros
This was the original picture I took when I noticed it looked wayyyyy different.
https://twitter.com/7thecho/status/424242709252296705
This picture shows 2 different types of 5Kchips but there were 3 my friend. Sparkly new grey ones that were official(which could be the one on the right) Old dull charcoal grey official 5Kchips(like the rest shown), and then the counterfeits. Did any of the chips in your picture feel different?
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01-19-2014 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan C. Lawhon
That's the one thing that keeps drawing me to this story like a moth to a flame - waiting for the New Jersey police to make an arrest. When/if they do make an arrest, I hope it's not a "respected" member of the poker community that we had all looked up to - that would be devastating ...

Does anybody know if Russ Hamilton was playing in this event?
Alan

I don't know the answer so only asking .

Most states casino laws have stiff sentencing guideline with jail time for cheating a casino .

Did the scumbags actually cheat the casino ? If I was their lawyer I would make an argument that they cheated the players , then what is the criminal statute?

If it's just general fraud , then what is the fraud amount $565 , $2m, worlds first ICM based court case? The $ amount of the fraud would dictate penalty , $565 fraud might just be misdemeanor where $2M fraud and someone's goin to jail

I have no idea and am hoping a lawyer can come on and explain?

This whole team needs to go to jail, I am hoping the above doesn't let them wiggle out

Last edited by PTLou; 01-19-2014 at 08:57 PM.
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01-19-2014 , 08:54 PM
Unless they find who brought the chips into the tourney there will be no consequences. The other people who were the final 27 that hand no involvement in the chip stealing are getting screwed. I hope the individuals who cheated get severely punished, but we all know that won't happen...
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01-19-2014 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen
but we all know that won't happen...
I would just say it is unlikely.
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01-19-2014 , 09:02 PM
If you can tweet about rooting for a football team it means you're not taking this very seriously .. The first thing he should have done is tweeted an apology or a statement.. Tweeting What team he's rooting for right now is ridiculous ..
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01-19-2014 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by flushbusterAAAKK
I played in this tourney and yes borgata will have to issue refunds out. They should be held liable as they hired dealers that didn't even know what ante's were little own what the chips look like.One dealer couldn't even shuffle the cards and the middle of the deck was sticking out so seats 1234 could see what the was showing in the middle of the deck so ******ed. I got so frustrated correcting the dealer I through my chips in and bought in to go to another table to find the same stuff with the other dealers. CRAZY!!! they would just throw it together so this would happen. It is their responsibility to make sure we are playing in a safe and fair tourney. Sorry if they don't issue refunds there will be more legal fees than they could imagine.
so this was 5+ pages ago (i'm scrolling through now) but had to point out cos i'm feeling particularly nitty today, it's 'let alone' not 'little own'. hope it saves you some embarassment in future.
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01-19-2014 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by El P
so this was 5+ pages ago (i'm scrolling through now) but had to point out cos i'm feeling particularly nitty today, it's 'let alone' not 'little own'. hope it saves you some embarassment in future.
What about this one?

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I through my chips in
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01-19-2014 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by El P
so this was 5+ pages ago (i'm scrolling through now) but had to point out cos i'm feeling particularly nitty today, it's 'let alone' not 'little own'. hope it saves you some embarassment in future.
If you're going to be such a nit at least pick up his other errors too
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01-19-2014 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
Alan

I don't know the answer so only asking .

Most states casino laws have stiff sentencing guideline with jail time for cheating a casino .

Did the scumbags actually cheat the casino ? If I was their lawyer I would make an argument that they cheated the players , then what is the criminal statute?

I have no idea and am hoping a lawyer can come on and explain?

This whole team needs to go to jail, I am hoping the above doesn't let them wiggle out
In Nevada it is a felony to introduce a counterfeit chip into a game and there is no distinction between a NCV and a value chip.

I doubt that NJ is much different that NV and the requirement for a card tables video surveillance include:

You must have camera coverage for the following:
enough to identify the players and dealers.
identify the cards in play
identify the amount of chips on the table

The chips must be of colors that allow you to determine the value of the chip on a black and white monitor from the video.

It will take time to look through all the film, but I have no doubt they will be able to tell whose chip stack grew and it won't matter if it happened at the table or during a move.

The fools made the donk play of all time.
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01-19-2014 , 09:13 PM
really tilting me that Tab is giving more updates on football than he is on #chipgate
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01-19-2014 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FRYTWO
really tilting me that Tab is giving more updates on football than he is on #chipgate
Thank you! It's such a joke.. This could cost alot of people alot of money and some a little money, I would take it alot more seriously.. Especially if I want people to come back.
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01-19-2014 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by drew13800
Thank you! It's such a joke.. This could cost alot of people alot of money and some a little money, I would take it alot more seriously.. Especially if I want people to come back.
Not only that, but this scandal calls into question all the past and future poker tournaments at that venue. If I ran Borgata, I would make a big deal of all the changes the tournament staff would be making and all the new precautions it will be taking to ensure fair tournaments from now on.
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01-19-2014 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
more tilt-inducing .... Alan Lawhon or Doc T River?
Alan 100%.
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01-19-2014 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ChasinScrila
Alan 100%.
At least he stopped the signature at the end of his nonsensical posts.
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01-19-2014 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
more tilt-inducing .... Alan Lawhon or Doc T River?
More envious of my great literary talent ... Bdidd or Chainsaw?
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01-19-2014 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FRYTWO
really tilting me that Tab is giving more updates on football than he is on #chipgate
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Originally Posted by drew13800
Thank you! It's such a joke.. This could cost alot of people alot of money and some a little money, I would take it alot more seriously.. Especially if I want people to come back.
Would it make you feel better if he were to say, "Borgata has no comment about event 1 at this time?"

I realize that this is especially frustrating for all of the players who are in the top 27. But there is nothing to be said until something has been done to determine a resolution.
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01-19-2014 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by VP$IP
What about this one?
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Originally Posted by <"))))><
If you're going to be such a nit at least pick up his other errors too
haha i didnt make it that far. just insta-hit quote and posted
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01-19-2014 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jigsaw
Would it make you feel better if he were to say, "Borgata has no comment about event 1 at this time?"

I realize that this is especially frustrating for all of the players who are in the top 27. But there is nothing to be said until something has been done to determine a resolution.
Yes, it would. "Borgata has no comment about Event 1 at this time, and we will provide any available additional info on such and such a date and time. We take these matters very seriously, etc, etc."
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