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To be honest I see no other reason than to allow for more early bustouts so more people reenter. The more reentries obviously the more rake the Borgata takes in. It's just amazing to me that in a span of 18 months this $560 went from a "must play" to a "must avoid".

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01-18-2014 , 06:53 PM

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KCYoung

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Originally Posted by Broadsword

People need to realize that one or more of the 27 left could/may be the ones behind the T 5K fake chips...

I think EVERYONE realizes that.

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01-18-2014 , 06:56 PM

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ZenForest

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Originally Posted by bwslim69

Because people in the Borgata MTT threads wanted bigger and bigger guarantees . Borgata obliged and the fields continued to swell. A necessary by-product of that is shorter levels or it becomes a week long event.

FFS its a $560 BI event. 30 min levels on Day 1 is fine.

I have no prob w/30 min levels (for this BI) if thats what was advertised, but it tilts me when Poker Rooms advertise one thing, then change once you arrive at the casino.

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01-18-2014 , 07:00 PM

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Broadsword

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I would be interesting to see whose frozen chip stacks contained the fake Borgata T $5K chips and the amounts therein.

Plus the investigation to the under side of each fake T 5K Borgata labels for possible fingerprints. Just like the backslide of stolen cars rear view mirrors...

Last edited by Broadsword; 01-18-2014 at 07:07 PM.

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01-18-2014 , 07:01 PM

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ZenForest

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fwiw

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Marsha Wolak ‏@marshawolak
Unofficial word: top remaining players will be paid according to chip chop: entries refunded to all others including rebuys! #chipgate

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01-18-2014 , 07:05 PM

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kk405

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Originally Posted by ChipKatcher

Unreliable players write how many chips on bag. A cheater who put chips in play if he loses the counterfeit chips in a pot he can just subtract amount of counterfeit chips from his stack total so the numbers still come up right.

I know that. Was just curious to see what the numbers were, if anyone had them. Obviously if the cheaters introduced the chips in play during Day 1s, they could have written anything they wanted on their bags anyway, but was just curious on the numbers.

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01-18-2014 , 07:05 PM

#632

jimbobwe00

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Originally Posted by Broadsword

I would be interesting to see whose frozen chip stacks contained the fake Borgata T $5K chips and the amounts therein.

that wouldn't really be indicative of anything though unless there was like a vast preponderance in one or two stacks, and even then it would be impossible to prove foul play just based on that

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01-18-2014 , 07:10 PM

#633

ChipKatcher

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I hope someone goes to jail. I was gonna win this and I was cheated.

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01-18-2014 , 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ohsnapzach

Did I do this right??

It looks like any of the final 27 players could have made the final table based on those chip stacks. I would be on lifetilt if I was 1 of those lower stacks that planned to open up my game when the field got small.

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01-18-2014 , 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Broadsword

The fake stickers could easily have DNA and fingerprint evidence. Nice one.

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01-18-2014 , 07:15 PM

#636

schundler

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chopping up the money makes no sense. it solves nothing. if you can identify one of the 27 as a cheater, disqualify them and play it out. if not, just play it out.

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01-18-2014 , 07:16 PM

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FlapJacks316

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leaked rumor from inside the borgata is that there was 100% a cheater left in the final 27.

They keep having meetings, and these are the things being passed on unofficially.

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01-18-2014 , 07:17 PM

#638

ChipKatcher

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Originally Posted by LanceFedora

Bottom 4 or 5 stacks get screwed the most especially 27th. Everyone else makes out okay with around 8th and 9th place money and up give or take a few I thousand I bet the chip leader is thrilled.

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01-18-2014 , 07:17 PM

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Chris tryba in borgata tournament thread claims he received tainted chips directly from new buyin.

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01-18-2014 , 07:18 PM

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fwiw......PokerNews Live Blog is Reporting that Men Nguyen still has a "noteable stack" in the 100k GTD

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01-18-2014 , 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nowitsover

LOL. You do not know Borgata. They will milk you for every penny. Refund is not in their dictionary. They will go as far as offering all affected players a $10 food voucher. But that is it.

don't post in this thread anymore please

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01-18-2014 , 07:25 PM

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No, he claimed on my twitter feed @7thecho after seeing my picture, that it was inconclusive because Tab gave him those chips for his rebuy. I found it ironic that I was getting bitched at after originally posting the picture in jest just to find out there was a million extra chips infiltrated.

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01-18-2014 , 07:27 PM

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BorgatCHa

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01-18-2014 , 07:29 PM

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How could he get counterfeit chips as part of his reentry buyin. I don't get it. There were also new chips used for the sheer large number of players. Maybe he confused the new chips with the tainted chips.

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01-18-2014 , 07:31 PM

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Casino Errors + Foul Play = Giant Mess

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01-18-2014 , 07:31 PM

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Made yahoo's page

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-borgata-end...173709430.html

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01-18-2014 , 07:32 PM

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Made yahoo's page

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-borgata-end...173709430.html

we on tv now

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01-18-2014 , 07:32 PM

#648

ChipKatcher

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Originally Posted by doublejoker

I said this earlier when I was shown the pic I said the chips on the left were fake and I was told know the ones on the right. And I said maybe an inside job would make sense for everyone to get refunded then. It was just a theory. Then the cheaters introduced real chips to fly under the radar.

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01-18-2014 , 07:34 PM

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TeamEdwardsPros

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That's my thought. Right when the pot was pushed to me, I showed the dealer how fake it looked, felt, and he discounted it. That's when I took the picture and posted it on my twitter. We laughed in the hotel room that night about it as I showed my other horses. Coincidently after we completely discounted how ******ed someone would be for trying this in a manner which it looked spray painted, they indeed did have 1 mill in fake chips.