I wish I was still living in my parent's basement. But then again, I never did live in my parent's basement. In fact, my parents don't have a basement. There are no basements in Florida. And, because you make such lousy reads on people, please come to Florida with whatever meager bankroll you have. I could use another five bucks.

Why would it be huge disgrace to the PC?
People lost millions on the Full Tilt scandal, and its been largely forgotten.
I believe 27th place money is all you can expect at this point unless they can rule out cheaters in the remaining 27.

Actually players effectively lost no money from the FTP scandal.... other than interest lost

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If you look at the numbers in the FT threads, this is completely untrue.

Guilty unless/until proven innocent?

Given the ridiculous amount of time it is taking for a resolution I've reopened.

Has anyone followed up? Is there a standard response from Borgata?

Would be funny if the Borgata knew this thread was closed and thought it bought them time because it wouldn't be a constant reminder every day

Sickening already. Will not step foot in Borgata until this is resolved. Dont care what tournament they are hosting. There are many more tournaments I will participate in and none will be at the Borgata. Sorry Borgata and New Jersey Gaming division...You guys are doing a horrific job.

I called and emailed NJDGE .
I called and emailed Governors office.

No response . Zero.

Looks like something in fix. Politician are working hard to protect poor billion $$ corporation with the help of NJDGE

It's not that ridiculous when you consider all the competing interests at play.

(1.) A lawsuit has already been filed - with the prospect of more to come.
(2.) The final 27 players have an interest - as in a [potential] $372,000 interest that was subverted by Mr. Lusardi and the cancellation decision by the NJDGE. If the eventual "resolution" handed down by the NJDGE and the Borgata is not considered "fair" by any of the 27, that's another lawsuit.
(3.) This case will likely set precedent as new regulations imposed on the operators to prevent cheating - or make cheating much more difficult to get away with - will surely follow. Such new regulations will not only affect the Borgata and New Jersey operators, but will likely be adopted in Nevada, California, Mississippi and all the other states where brick & mortar poker rooms are legal.
(4.) Business insurers may be balking. Large corporations such as Borgata carry liability policies that protect them against multi-million dollar judgments which could arise from a case like this. If insurers are unable to quantify the degree of risk and their [potential] exposure, they'll withdraw from the market. If operators are unable to obtain protection, they'll be forced to discontinue large-field MTTs. That decision would be forced on them as part of their fidicuary duty to their shareholders.
(5.) The operators and their licensing authority (the state) have both mutual interests and competing interests in this matter.

You can bet that intense discussions are going on between lawyers and executives representing the operators and regulators representing the state of New Jersey. The operators primary interest is in keeping the cost of added security as low as possible while the state of New Jersey is greatly interested in assuring gambling patrons, especially "casual" gaming patrons, that the games are fair. The state of New Jersey wants to protect the stream of tax revenue coming from the tables. Cheating scandals like this shake public confidence that regulators are doing their job. If the perception takes hold that regulators (and operators) are not doing their job, the stream of tax revenue going to the state will dry up. If that were to happen, politicians would either have to raise taxes or cut services to their constituents - a very unappealing prospect to the pols. From the perspective of the politicians and the regulators, this is the kind of thing that has to be nipped in the bud.

The primary issue will boil down to: "How much [additional] game security is appropriate - and at what cost?" The dilemma in adding costly new game security measures is: "At what point do you kill the goose that layed the golden egg?" If new security measures wind up doubling tournament entry fees from 10 percent to 20 percent, how many players will conclude that entering large-field MTTs is no longer worth the risk?

If the NJDGE gets this wrong, they could wind up destroying large-field MTTs - not to mention the tax revenues that derive from such. That's why this is taking so long.

Tldr plus its alan

Hope you don't seriously believe it is getting this much attention.

Have any of the 27 tried to file a claim against Borgata's insurance carrier?

Have any of the 27 tried to organize a protest at the Borgata? Perhaps at the upcoming WPT Championship?

Funny !! But unique idea.

Picket line with remaining 27 players standing out side the poker room with some kind of posters !!

Why was this unlocked? Nothing new on the horizon

If that's true, then that would be news in itself. At the time this thread was locked, no one knew what was on the horizon, nor could we even tell how far that horizon was. At least your statement would confirm that there is nothing new (as opposed to not knowing in any way) and would suggest that you know for how long there will be no new developments.

But seriously...

Though I have no direction involvement in this fiasco, I don't mind seeing this thread reopened. If nothing else, it allows those affected to have a place to check in. At its best, it could be a headquarters of sorts for the players to take some action.

I just hope this "second chance" will make some people reconsider when lowering themselves to ad hominem attacks, which is what truly seemed to close the thread.

It was locked because there was nothing new to report.

There's still nothing new to report so its reopened?

That doesn't make sense.

ive played in a bunch of tournies in other places since Borgata and basically not much has changed. hopefully, it stays this way. one of the places just counted the chips on the break.

i don't think borgata or any other venue ever promised complete security or a guarantee that someone could not cheat.

having procedures in place if cheating is discovered and offering slightly more security is all that is really necesary.

PP, you rickrolled me!

some 1 on twitter has stated NJ DGE has made ruling and going to release info soon anyone else here anything

Anyone else shocked that borgata is running another big tournament with no resolution its unreal 1 that WPT would stand behind this and 2 that players would still feel the need too play in these event 3 that DGEwould allow them to run another big event while this still hangs out there just a thought its all too crazy

The guy who was 2nd or 3rd in chips at the time of the cancelation won a ME in Chicago recently...Nick Guarganti...

i think NJ DGE may have made a ruling from what I have been hearing on twitter but could be bull**** not sure

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borgata wrong about this and the CEO must not be too smart I feel the DGE and Borgata are in bed to together its all about money and power not the players there is no way these so called smart people that make millions cant figure out a resolution the problem is they dont want too