wow that's sick if it's really the master. seems almost too obvious it would be him.

Has there been any evidence pointing to him...? what did a prev poster mean when he said the suspect's name was 'already out there...'?

Or was Men just a name that popped into this thread as a bit of a joke, but then gained traction without anything concrete pointing to him in this instance?

i've seen security guards step in the bathroom when they need to use their cell phones. so yes.


****ty situation. Tab is a top flight TD- not sure how all this is going to shake out but there is just an endless amount of stuff to look at as possible leaks with the amount of players, different areas the tournament was operating in and everything else.

This is a serious black eye for the establishment too.

I miss online poker where everything was on the up and up haha

Grunch. complete rumor mill but I heard that at least one table had everyone seated with an extra 5k chip. All players. No one spoke up. Anyone hear similar? Seems impossible to sneak in 200+ chips unnoticed early on

Wouldn't that indicate dealer/casino error more than counterfeit chips ?

I haven't seen anybody address this theory. Seems like a good one. Is it plausible?

Yes. I heard the chips may not be fakes but old? Who knows, all speculation but the person I heard it from claims he knows a person at the table that started with the extra 5k along with the whole table

Old???

Does make more sense to play online, it is more safe and secure.

"expects the investigation to be completed by Saturday at noon"
http://www.courierpostonline.com/vie...-investigation

Rumor has it one of Gov. Christie's top aides sent a text to Men The Master which read "time for some tournament problems in Borgata" because Tab refused to endorse the Gov's re-election.

I am betting they know what happened and are just taking every precaution. To state you know when the investigation should be over seems to indicate, you know what happened.

Lets hope so

In before Adelson (or part of his paid lobbying group) accuse live casinos of facilitating fraud, cheating and money laundering....

+1

BorgataGate.

Online poker obviously safer than live now !!!

I just don't understand how they can state that the entire tournament was compromised and not refund players. DUCY

LOL. You do not know Borgata. They will milk you for every penny. Refund is not in their dictionary. They will go as far as offering all affected players a $10 food voucher. But that is it.

How is this for an interesting twist? Borgata comes up with a resolution where the chip leader loses out. The chip leader happens to be the guy that did the evil deed. He sues Borgata for triiple damages and wins!

NOTE: If someone has already suggested something similar, do not read the above posting.

then I'd imagine more than a handful of lawsuits

Seems easy solution is final 27 play it out and paid accordingly, then each scrutinized via any tapes they have. If nothing found, Borgata should refund all the entrants who did not cash. Borgata takes the loss on this, much better than players lose and some cheaters prosper.

I remember playing a daily and at one of the tables every stack had an extra grey chip to start. No one noticed until level 2.

Men the Master iirc hasn't been to the Borgata in years. All of a sudden he shows up for event 1 and goes super super deep???? Obviously with his history of cheating,, chip stealing etc he should definitely be a focal point of the investigation initially. His influence on cheating in the poker world is pretty substantial as he has quite a few "horses" doing the same kind of thing.

I remember back in January 2007 at the Goldstrike Casino in Tunica I was playing a $1060 mega(better juice back then) to win a seat into the $10,000 main event. 1 of Men's good buddies, Jimmy Tran was at my table and he had lost 1/2 his stack early on. On the 1st break he goes and chats with his wife Angie(who was also playing) and when he comes back to our table he had a lot more chips than at the start of the break!!! Well I noticed this along with a couple others and as it turns out, Jimmy's wife gave him a bunch of chips she took from her table before the break. I complained and they did an investigation(Jimmy had to sit out along with his wife while the floor reviewed the cameras).

The outcome was ridiculous and echos a statement earlier in this thread by Mr. Lawton - Ken Lambert ackowledged they colluded with each other and disqualified them from the satellite. HOWEVER, and this is a BIG HOWEVER - Lambert REFUNDED THE $1060 BACK TO BOTH JIMMY AND HIS WIFE!!! I mean, WTF was that???? A refund after they are caught cheating???? I was pissed and started arguing with Ken Lambert and some others did as well. Men the Master was observing all of this(probably was coaching them) and he saw how angry I was. Hours later after I won a seat(again back in the day when mega satellites had good structures not like today) Men pulls me aside and starts telling me how much he likes my play and wants to take a BIG PIECE OF ME FOR THE MAIN, LOL. I had never spoken with him in my life and I told him no thanks and walked away.

Trust me, his influence should not be diminished.

Not really any chip runners. You take your re entry ticket to registration desk buy a whole new ticket and go get chips from someone at the main tourney desk.

Would seem really hard for all that to work

Whatever happened to getting BlackListed. Once a SCUMBAG CHEATER, ALWAYS a SCUMBAG CHEATER. Need to keep these people OUT !!!

�������� Men is such a scumbag.. Im hoping it is him and he gets f*ing nailed