Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT* - Page 106 - Poker News

not sure if anyone is following the WPT Borgata main event but the guy who is second in chips with 6 players to go, Anthony Maio, is one of the chip gate 27 (last in chips in the cancelled tourney). naturally no mention of the event 1 debacle on the WPT blog but it will be interesting on the upcoming tv coverage of the final 6 if this gets mentioned. yeah, will slide a slight brag in, I was one of the final 27 and also cashed in the 3million main (64th)

Nice work buddy!.... Listen, since you have been down at the Borgata, what is the latest that you have heard about this chip scandal? What is the word floating around the room? Refunds with a Free-roll? Nothing?

Please give some information.

Thank you

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01-31-2014 , 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by archii

There is no way they are going to mention him still being in the cancelled event. Such a bad publicity to talk something like that on national TV. Most viewers have no idea what's been going on in Borgata.

100% agree. No way the WPT mentions this. However, what if Maio talks about it while playing at the final table?

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01-31-2014 , 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by archii

Sigh. You didnt understand my point it seemd. I feel like they have to change the chip sets to another chip set entirely. You know, different look and design. If they can add something to it which makes it harder to make fake chips then great. Probably it is possible. Spesific kind of holograms at least for the bigger chips or whatever.

Even though it doesnt mean some poor bastard wont try to cheat in the future this is pretty much such to show that they are taking this seriously. To the public it looks like they've done something to correct the wrong, although we might know better. understand? I agree, no need to keep talking about this in here. Over and out.

Its not too hard to get new tourney chips with their own logo. I say they have 2 or 3 different sets of 5k chips, and pick one per tourney.

Regardless, they are much more worried about faking the real $100 chips than tourney chips.

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01-31-2014 , 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Allworld23

I was there playing some satty on Sunday. What I heard is :
Refunds and free roll for all. But sticky point is how to handle remaining 27 players !!

There is not much information out there and no news on how the investigation is going on.So I think all the gossip I heard on the floor is just guessing.

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01-31-2014 , 02:16 PM

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What you heard as in players.... Or as in actual employees ?

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01-31-2014 , 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Trooper

What you heard as in players.... Or as in actual employees ?

Both

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01-31-2014 , 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Allworld23

Nice work buddy!.... Listen, since you have been down at the Borgata, what is the latest that you have heard about this chip scandal? What is the word floating around the room? Refunds with a Free-roll? Nothing?

Please give some information.

Thank you

It does not matter because anyone who is talking knows nothing for sure. And anyone who does know something is not talking.

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01-31-2014 , 03:05 PM

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Doesn't seem like the Borgata was victim of any theft. It was the players who had equity stolen from them. Not sure how to calculate that exact amount.

Borgata was more of a victim of bad publicity and reputation defamation.

If there is a civil suit against the perpetrator, I am curious as to how this will be calculated.

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01-31-2014 , 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jigsaw

It does not matter because anyone who is talking knows nothing for sure. And anyone who does know something is not talking.

Totally this

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01-31-2014 , 03:33 PM

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It is pretty ridiculous actually. So what happens if you have a criminal background? By suggesting such a thing I'm assuming you mean there will be some reprecussion for having a rap sheet. So they will not be able to participate? What kind of a crime would keep you from playing? Parking ticket? Thepetty theft? battery? Insurance fraud? Deciding what happens from which violation is a pain. No way tournaments will ever do this. There has to be another way to keep the games honest.

One way would be having ban lists shared by all casinos. Why is Men banned in 3-5 casinos, but not all. Do the other casinos just not care? I just read in the Parx thread there is a player playing there now that is banned from Borgata, Foxwoods, etc. Shouldn't he be banned at Parx too - even though he didn't do anything wrong at Parx, the fact that 3-5 casinos think he did enough wrong there to ban him from their casinos should be enough for all casinos to ban him.

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01-31-2014 , 04:21 PM

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They just might say, it ended with 27 left, and the chip counts are bogus due to the corrupted stacks.

IMO, they might be so bold as to pay 26th place to all remaining people, and use the balance to give refunds.... you saw it here first.. The B doing what they can to avoid a $2M payout.

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01-31-2014 , 05:53 PM

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we saw it here, and only here imo

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01-31-2014 , 06:16 PM

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One way would be having ban lists shared by all casinos. Why is Men banned in 3-5 casinos, but not all. Do the other casinos just not care? I just read in the Parx thread there is a player playing there now that is banned from Borgata, Foxwoods, etc. Shouldn't he be banned at Parx too - even though he didn't do anything wrong at Parx, the fact that 3-5 casinos think he did enough wrong there to ban him from their casinos should be enough for all casinos to ban him.

Yes, he should be. If the People that Managed the Poker Rooms gave two cents about the integrity of the game.

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01-31-2014 , 06:54 PM

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Listening to the 2+2 podcast. Everyone is convinced Lusardi didn't act alone because it was 200 5k chips found in play.

I can't be the only one who's thought of another possibility but with the 8 million posts I can't read them all... But Lusardi could have acted alone and simply been adding chips to tournaments he has played at the borgata over the last year. Can't they check his recent registration history.

5-10 chips per tournament and he could easily introduce 200 chips. At 5-10 at a time they probably wouldn't notice for a while.

Just another option.

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01-31-2014 , 08:08 PM

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What r u talking about !! They found 255 fake $5000 chip in this tournament .

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01-31-2014 , 08:21 PM

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The previous post suggests Lusardi might have introduced the 200 counterfeit chips in previous tourneys but nobody noticed until now. He is simply offering a potential scenario in which Lusardi could have acted alone.

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01-31-2014 , 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by riverph7

What r u talking about !! They found 255 fake $5000 chip in this tournament .

Simmmerrr down now..

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01-31-2014 , 08:56 PM

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Lol, they stack up, count, the chips after all the series they run. If there were counterfeits they would have found then unless they were perfect which they are not. He and of others put these chips in this tourney. The chips are not looked at mid tourney (maybe on a color up). You just put them in a bag at the end of the nite. Alot of people posting crazy theories probably have never played a big field tournament.

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01-31-2014 , 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LetMeLive

Total chips in play were more then 800 k in excess of buy in for this tournament . Even if has induced more chips in previous tourney it has no relevance to this tournament .

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01-31-2014 , 09:36 PM

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Do you think that a board with 4 four to the flush or a 4 flush should be called a Lusardi?

(Seahawks 23 Broncos 17)

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01-31-2014 , 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blue3715

I was just thinking:

since this was a guaranteed $2mil, if they had less than that in buy ins from players I presume an insurance policy would have paid the difference.

now, they could refund all entries and therefore have a $0 prize pool and collect on the insurance-of course there is probably a deductible and the cancellation due to cheating might void that insurance..

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01-31-2014 , 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ngrund

They have insurence against fraud.

Last edited by riverph7; 02-01-2014 at 12:18 AM.

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02-01-2014 , 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by riverph7

They have insurence against fraud.

You again state your uneducated belief as a fact. Please tell us what type of insurance coverage would cover cheating at a poker tournament by a player.

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02-01-2014 , 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenForest

Not that I can see.

Link to original report of arrest in NC w/list of others arrested.

http://blog.drivinglaws.org/2008/10/...house-arrests/

copy/paste names of those arrested ( see below) . (don't see a Jesse Letchworth)
Adams Michael 36
Anderson Joshua 24
Best Aaron 26
Blankenship Jonah 43
Bunce Rufus 46
Bungo Justin 22
Carter Jonathan 46
Cashwell Larry 35
Cole Vincent 24
Davis Joshua 21
Davis Titus 33
Ferguson Joshua 24
Fields Michael 24
Green Kenneth 32
Green Denise 38
Griffin Deshaune 21
Hall Lori 42
Jesus Villanueva 22
Jimenez Gabriel 41
Johnson Jeremie 24
Krick Kyle 23
Lee Robert 23
Lowther Gary 19
Melvin John 27
O’Conner Brendan 24
Pope Terrance 39
Powers Parrish 36
Quick James 41
Richburg Julius 25
Ross Robert 33
Scott Walter 26
Shadmoni David 20
Sheridan Shaheim 22
Taylor Charles 23
Toogood Myuna 69
Whetton Cory 27
Williams Roderick 25
Williams Kevin 37
Williams Anthony 44

plus....

In addition to the gambling charges, one patron, John Preston Melvin (27 years of age), was charged with Trafficking Opium / Heroin, Possession of Cocaine, and Possession of Marijuana. Furthermore, three handguns were found in vehicles being driven by patrons.

The owner of the Yadkin Road Poker House, Christian Patrick Lusardi (36 years of age) was charged with gambling and illegal alcohol sales. His mother, Diana Lusardi, was also charged with illegal gambling.

Just curious if the people arrested with Lusardi in 2008 are also playing at the Borgata.

Shaheim has 6 cashes there, 5 since March 2013.

Anyone know if Shaheim played in this Borgata Winter Open Tournament also? Is there a public official entry list?

Not sure if allowed to post link (mods pls remove if not) http://www.pokerpages.com/player-pro...m-sheridan.htm

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