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Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT* Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT*

01-25-2014 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tabneedsfired
Why would people on Day1a or Day1b get their money refunded?

This guy didn't introduce the chips until Day1c.

"The investigation revealed evidence that Lusardi introduced the counterfeit chips into the tournament on multiple occasions, state police Trooper Jeffrey Flynn said. It also was determined that Lusardi won $6,814 during the tournament."
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01-25-2014 , 12:12 PM
Most probable Justbecauseiam was Lusardi only because when we thought he was just trolling on Thursday night then he sounded more convincing he never logged back on to 2+2 his last login was at 9:29 pst Thursday. If it was a trolling he would have came back next day to check not knowing his s/n would be showing up.
I'm pissed when I was questioning him I didnt ask him if his name was Christian. According to news reports he did not turn himself in police showed up at his motel.
Hopefully they make an example out of him and anyone else that might be involved. I think 5 years in the slammer would send a statement. What do you guys think?
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01-25-2014 , 12:13 PM
The news of Harrahs pipes being clogged with chips came out days before this clown came on here pretending he is the guy responsible. He is just using information that 90% of the people on here seemingly didnt read about to make you think that he is the culprit once the information became public.
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01-25-2014 , 12:17 PM
he flushed the chips in his own toilet in his own room?

did he have to get rid of the chips at that point or what? why not just dump them in an outside trashcan miles away from AC?

so pretty much he ruined his own chances of getting away from this?
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01-25-2014 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo
Talk about a chip dump...
Well done, A+
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01-25-2014 , 12:21 PM
Been following this thread once or twice a day and knew about the chip flushing a few days ago. It's been mentioned here or at least in links to stories about the event for days before this dolt was arrested. Not saying that justbecauseican isn't Lusardi but knowing that info certainly does NOT make him Lusardi.
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01-25-2014 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tabneedsfired
Why would people on Day1a or Day1b get their money refunded?

This guy didn't introduce the chips until Day1c.
I thought he was chip leader day 1c but that it was a reentry tournament in which he could have played 1 a and b.
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01-25-2014 , 12:22 PM
Glad they caught the guy. Well done by the Borgata tourney staff.
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01-25-2014 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 88keyz
he flushed the chips in his own toilet in his own room?

did he have to get rid of the chips at that point or what? why not just dump them in an outside trashcan miles away from AC?

so pretty much he ruined his own chances of getting away from this?
Sounds like set up. He is 100 % guilty but there were more people involved.Not defending him but looks like he was thrown in a burning house to die . And others got away. And if he is guilty 5 years or more is suitable for the crime

Last edited by riverph7; 01-25-2014 at 12:30 PM.
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01-25-2014 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pokervangelist
Most probable Justbecauseiam was Lusardi only because when we thought he was just trolling on Thursday night then he sounded more convincing he never logged back on to 2+2 his last login was at 9:29 pst Thursday. If it was a trolling he would have came back next day to check not knowing his s/n would be showing up.
I'm pissed when I was questioning him I didnt ask him if his name was Christian. According to news reports he did not turn himself in police showed up at his motel.
Hopefully they make an example out of him and anyone else that might be involved. I think 5 years in the slammer would send a statement. What do you guys think?
Someone had posted that they contacted Justbecauseican but the post was deleted. It said that he was waiting to turn himself in on Monday because he already paid for Royal Rumble and didn't want to miss it.This is a very strange story. Not sure if joke but funny nonetheless.
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01-25-2014 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroRoller
Someone had posted that they contacted Justbecauseican but the post was deleted. It said that he was waiting to turn himself in on Monday because he already paid for Royal Rumble and didn't want to miss it.This is a very strange story. Not sure if joke but funny nonetheless.
This story gets better every day. Between this, who Jedi, and the FTP remissions, I'm surprised 2+2 hasn't crashed.
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01-25-2014 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Sounds like set up. He is 100 % guilty but there were more people involved.Not defending him but looks like he was thrown under the car to die . And others got away.
And maybe even posted in this thread. I had posted something pretty innocuous about it sounds like he's the one that was set up and someone replied that the post should be deleted.
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01-25-2014 , 12:35 PM
First, I'm very happy this scumbag was caught. I hope they make an example at him and he gets the max. Any chance they have some of the remaining 27 testify as witnesses at the sentencing to cry about how awful this was?

Second, Its obvious "Justcause" is legit. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.

Third, Lol at the Men/Men's room joke. I still shocked that Men wasn't involved, but I don't feel bad about him being falsely accused. The guy is a cheat either way. He just may not have been the cheater here.

Lastly, everyone should not be refunded. Its important for Casino's to profit from poker tournys or they will decrease the number they run or increase rake. As a community, we shouldn't unjustly demand they pay refunds. The only solution is for a chop for the remaining 27 and demand the casino makes changes to decrease the chances of this happening again.

Oh and P.S.. Well done to the guys that called Chris out in the beginning. Impressive.
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01-25-2014 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Tabneedsfired
Why would people on Day1a or Day1b get their money refunded?

This guy didn't introduce the chips until Day1c.
He was day 1b chipleader, therefore chips were introduced on day 1b at the very least.
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01-25-2014 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroRoller
Someone had posted that they contacted Justbecauseican but the post was deleted. It said that he was waiting to turn himself in on Monday because he already paid for Royal Rumble and didn't want to miss it.This is a very strange story. Not sure if joke but funny nonetheless.
So did he order it at the hotel where he flushed the chips or the hotel they caught him in? Or was he going to fly back to NC to make sure he didn't waste the 50 bucks on a PPV?
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01-25-2014 , 12:47 PM
I am really surprised that more folks haven't looked more into this paragraph from the PAC article:

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The red flag that began with hotel guests complaining of leaking pipes in their rooms set off a chain of events that ultimately shut down Event 1 in the Borgata Winter Poker Open on Jan. 16. Spurred by the discovery at Harrah’s, Borgata employees later found an additional 160 forged chips — totaling $800,000 — had been introduced into play, and regulators canceled the tournament.
This tells me that the sequence of events was a bit different than what we have been discussing. The Borgata didn't realize that counterfeit chips were put in play until they were notified of the find in Harrah's plumbing.

If this is true the folks running that tournament were completely negligent in their running of the tournament by not accurately tracking the total chips in play after each night's bagging or acting on the first reports of unusual chips in play.
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01-25-2014 , 12:48 PM
"Second, Its obvious "Justcause" is legit. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot."

There is nothing he said in any of his posts that was not known last Friday. Anyone who reads, played in the tourney, or knows any player in AC that weekend heard the chips down the toilet at Harrah's last Friday. So please, all worldly one, give us factual information that proves you are 100% correct that this was him and not someone leveling 50% of the forum.
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01-25-2014 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysDrawingDead
Third, Lol at the Men/Men's room joke. I still shocked that Men wasn't involved, but I don't feel bad about him being falsely accused. The guy is a cheat either way. He just may not have been the cheater here.
What was Men's joke?
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01-25-2014 , 12:48 PM
People often assume that cheaters are "criminal masterminds" or "evil geniuses" when most of the time they are just lowlife crooks with varying levels of education.

In hindsight, based on what we know, absolutely no part of this plan was well thought out or genius, as is often the case in robberies and crime in general.

If this were the movies, the villain would look like George Clooney, the arrest would be part of the plan, and right now 11 or 12 others would be sipping champagne on their own private island with they cash they made counterfeiting real Borgata 25k chips unnoticed while all of AC law enforcement was focused on finding 1000 poorly copied tournament chips in the city sewers.

But this isn't the movies. In the real world there are relatively few true evil geniuses. Most of em get caught because stupid. There is often a reason they are criminals.

(And if Salsberg is reading this post, I have dibs on the above movie rights. Don't LaBeouf me.)
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01-25-2014 , 12:50 PM
Some folks question on whether the day 1a losers should get a refund. Of course they should because the event was cancelled. By cancelling the event they had no shot at winning should they have gone on. It is like a rainout or a no-action event in the sports book.
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01-25-2014 , 12:52 PM
https://twitter.com/7thecho/status/423905097127829505. Sure looks like a lot of discoloration in that stack of Christian's!
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01-25-2014 , 12:54 PM
anyone who is saying the players shouldn't get refunds is delusional. The tourney was compromised and subsequently cancelled.
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01-25-2014 , 12:57 PM
I just looked at justbecauseicans profile and it says he accessed the site today. I wonder how he would do that from jail.
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01-25-2014 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Caputop
So did he order it at the hotel where he flushed the chips or the hotel they caught him in? Or was he going to fly back to NC to make sure he didn't waste the 50 bucks on a PPV?
Do I look like his travel agent?
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01-25-2014 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
I just looked at justbecauseicans profile and it says he accessed the site today. I wonder how he would do that from jail.
Lol I checked an hour ago and posted he had not accessed again until now, so obviously was NOT Lusardi. But maybe his friend or accomplice?
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