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Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT* Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT*

01-17-2014 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Randal_Graves


Pic from twitter
as if live poker AND tournaments weren't the most pathetic form of the game as it is (maybe short of ratholing) i'm now looking at seemingly spraypainted donkament chips....too good to be true

if it turns out to be men the master he will insta catapult into the league of extraordinary morons for not realizing everyone will obv look at him first
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01-17-2014 , 05:56 PM
On NJ 101.5 news.
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01-17-2014 , 05:57 PM
Bunch of scumbags in the poker world and borgata. Glad I don't have to go there much anymore, unless I choose to occasionally
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01-17-2014 , 05:58 PM
There's like 500 cans of spray paint at you big box stores. Were there really none that matched those chips better?
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01-17-2014 , 05:58 PM
some moron obviously thought he could exploit the fact that Borgata somehow uses what look like piece of **** home game chips for a $2m guaranteed event
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01-17-2014 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ditch Digger
There's like 500 cans of spray paint at you big box stores. Were there really none that matched those chips better?
Exactly my thought. I mean if you are gonna make fake chips at least put a little effort into it.
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01-17-2014 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGift&TheCurse
some moron obviously thought he could exploit the fact that Borgata somehow uses what look like piece of **** home game chips for a $2m guaranteed event
they are actually Paulson Top hat & Cane chips. By no means home game quality...
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01-17-2014 , 06:03 PM
Forget lifetime ban, whomever is responsible should be thrown in jail
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01-17-2014 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
I remember a few times I had to was my hands cause my finger tips were pretty dirty from shuffling. I assumed it was from the table being dirty but thinking back it seemed like it was slightly metallic looking. Would make sense if the chips were painted.

Anyone else who played notice this?
we can't all be shuffling stacks of 5k chips
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01-17-2014 , 06:07 PM
I possibly would consider this.

At this point the % of cheats left is likely small. The majority, if any, of the final 27 likely did not cheat. Those players should not get penalized for the cheating. If in 24 hours they are not able to determine the cheats then tournament should continue with the current total amount of chips still in play.

On completion of the tournament the winning funds should be held in trust for a short but reasonable time period to give Borgata additional time to try and identify the cheats. If the cheats are discovered then the prize pool is adjusted accordingly. If the cheats are not discovered then the payouts are done as per the actual finish.

Some cheats may possibly prosper and this is extremely unfortunate but the non cheating players are being treated as fairly as possible. It needs to be remembered in this scenario that all non cheating players in this tournament were on the same playing field as each other and therefore the ones that managed to finished in the money deserve to be paid.
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01-17-2014 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodOlKevin
How much was the pot?
Only $350-400ish. Pretty sure he started the hand with under $200.
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01-17-2014 , 06:10 PM
The thing is thE DGE doesn't care about player input, poker etiquette or a fair way to resolve the issue to make people happy. There was cheating in a casino, essentially money stolen. They need to keep the integrity of the game and protect the players. I don't think this ends well. Either restart or refund
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01-17-2014 , 06:11 PM
Were any made with duct tape ?
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01-17-2014 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by R*R
I possibly would consider this.

At this point the % of cheats left is likely small. The majority, if any, of the final 27 likely did not cheat. Those players should not get penalized for the cheating. If in 24 hours they are not able to determine the cheats then tournament should continue with the current total amount of chips still in play.

On completion of the tournament the winning funds should be held in trust for a short but reasonable time period to give Borgata additional time to try and identify the cheats. If the cheats are discovered then the prize pool is adjusted accordingly. If the cheats are not discovered then the payouts are done as per the actual finish.

Some cheats may possibly prosper and this is extremely unfortunate but the non cheating players are being treated as fairly as possible. It needs to be remembered in this scenario that all non cheating players in this tournament were on the same playing field as each other and therefore the ones that managed to finished in the money deserve to be paid.
what does it matter if all non-cheating players were on the same playing field? all non-cheating players were not on the same playing field as cheating players.
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01-17-2014 , 06:12 PM
Someone on twitter just said they were going to chop by current chip positions
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01-17-2014 , 06:12 PM
Discussion of s chip chop on Twitter
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01-17-2014 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JerseyPoker869
The thing is thE DGE doesn't care about player input, poker etiquette or a fair way to resolve the issue to make people happy. There was cheating in a casino, essentially money stolen. They need to keep the integrity of the game and protect the players. I don't think this ends well. Either restart or refund
How do you do either when they already did payouts? Seems like a HUGE kerfuffle.
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01-17-2014 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
Discussion of s chip chop on Twitter
Bro I don't care who is tweeting what. You can't chop 2 milly when there has been cheating. Homie said it a minute ago. Escrow that shizz till they expose em.
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01-17-2014 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroRoller
I've known 5k chips for years. We come in contact once in a while at tournaments. They've been nothing but great to me and I have a hard time believing this is true.

I think we should all calm down until there is a proper investigation before we start slandering such a good denomination chip.
This is the problem.. Friends rushing in to defend 5k's integrity when obvi he's a scumbag
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01-17-2014 , 06:26 PM
Does anyone think it's out of the question for them to do a chop for the remaining 27 players *AND* give refunds to all non-cashing entries? They lose a ton of money in the immediate term, but what is player confidence in the integrity of the game worth to a casino?

Edit: This assumes that they will be investigating and very likely finding out who did this. Those individuals (I assume) will be prosecuted criminally and found liable for the loses incurred by the casino, even if they'll never be able to repay it.
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01-17-2014 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
Bro I don't care who is tweeting what. You can't chop 2 milly when there has been cheating. Homie said it a minute ago. Escrow that shizz till they expose em.
The remaining pool monies do not equal 2m... yo
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01-17-2014 , 06:29 PM
Chip chop= worst idea imaginable given circumstances, just play the tourney out.
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01-17-2014 , 06:30 PM
refunds to non cashing players less the vig
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01-17-2014 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ASAP17
Chip chop= worst idea imaginable given circumstances, just play the tourney out.
Why? IMO, worse than chip chop is for them to cancel the whole tourney and return all buy-ins. There's a crapstorm that's ahead if the casino allows defrauded players to lose their buy in.
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01-17-2014 , 06:33 PM
The quality of the dealers there is clearly crap for them to allow this to happen

Ever since the first counterfeit chips were used, the perpetrators should've been caught instantly
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