What do you consider "peanuts" because there would probably be 50k+ action that you can't beat $100+ hypers over a significant sample pre/rb. Are you really trying to say that $50k is not worth your time? No, what you're trying to say is you'd hate to lose that much action when you got crushed in them, went on a 50k downswing in your first 4k games AND had to pay out a massive prop bet.

PM sent. Tell me if you agree and like I said we can start this in a bit over a week or so.

Looking at it at this way is too simple, it is true in some sense but what people tend to forget that when a game gets easier to learn there are other parameters that change that make the game harder because it "is easier". A simple example is that when a game gets "easier", leaks become more costly which means you need to be better in the game you are playing than you need to be in another more deeper format since just a few small leaks could make you a losing player in the "easier" format. There are a ton of parameters like this that make a static ranking of how hard a certain game is vs another game pretty impossible. People should just say that different games are different and not measure their ***** every opportunity they get.

It's pretty funny how you are trying to be a smartass and then totally fail to grasp the concept of the prop bet I am proposing. Even funnier if you consider that you are supposedly this sick HS deepstack cash game player. Anyway it's interesting how the more you post the more of a view we are getting into your deranged little soul. I'm not even going to respond more to the points you raise because obviously you are just going to keep spouting nonsense, bro!

Bro...

Haha good job contradicting yourself

i used to grind sngs and mtts a while back. I was never a cash game player but dabbled a bit in ring games and yes that guy's post is 100% correct.

Tell me what's wrong with it.

U butthurt tournament player?

Who the **** cares what WhamBamThankYouMam thinks. He sounds like a douche who likes to argue. .... Boku is back! He is the reason I started learning and playing poker more serious.

Poker is about making money. Therefore imo:

Cash player making $200k/year = SNG player making $200k/year

Including rakeback, including bonuses, everything.

Get down off your goddam high horse.

Sincerely,

Cash game player

Comparing Cashgame to Sngs skillwise is just nonsense. In Cashgame you have more difficult decisions but have more time to think. In Sngs you make easier decisions but you only have 1-2 seconds or less per decision. If you would compare 4 tables cashgame with 4 tables sng then i would agree that cashgames need more skill, but in Sngs many people play 10+ tables . Playing 60 tables like boku does without timing out and playing breakeven is already a remarkable skill. I guess almost nobody can do that. I would time out and missclick etc. all the time if i would try to do that.
The Question is if it makes sense financially and healthwise to grind so many tables breakeven for pure Rakeback and in my opinion it doesnt make any sense at the micros.

Yes, and tournament luckbox making $1MM in a year = Nosebleeds cashgame specialist who makes $1MM in a year


o wait

he is referring to SNGs online, where people play a lot of hands not some guy winning a live tournament

While I'm a cash player, I spend a bit of time in PG&C and notice there are quite a lot of SnG beasts posting in here in response to these "skill" argument posts.

I'm actually quite surprised any of you care enough to indulge in arguments with people who like to argue that Mercedes make better Mercedes than BMW do.

way to take my post out of context bro.

Open challenge to Boku on profit and volume right here. Or if some 2+2er wants to come up for a challenge for me I'm game. Contemplating starting a prop bet of $100 to SNE next year.

No beef in making the challenge and frankly never played with him. Just have been looking for a suitable challenge for a while.

Edited to say I would like to avoid hypers as I don't consider them poker.

Why does anyone takes you serious?

Well this thread really died. Its tragic that you idiots cant contribute to a thread without getting into a dik swinging competition. On a sidenote GL Boku

73 tabling at the min lol

That cant be done

Thanks for ttt' ing this thread, I've heard the name Boku but I didn't know what he was famous for, now I know.

Kudos to Boku. The bottom line is winning money and 2/3rds of all players lose. Any profit is good so to make $10k in 14 days is massive at low stakes. I think it would be pretty hard to achieve this nowadays as I see massive multi tablers at even the lowest micro stakes playing ABC which is easy to read but difficult to beat, especially when you have a table full of them.

As to the arguments that hypers have no skill, that's utter rubbish. Edges are smaller but they are all about volume play and rakeback. I hated turbo's for a long while because they have less thinking time and the blinds move quicker but I've grown to love them as I changed my game and found the winning formula.

Cash tables are about finding weaknesses in a player and exploiting their mistakes. STTs are about changing gears and ICM. They are totally different beasts. I'm a losing limit cash player but a 13% ROI winning Limit STT player. I win because my opponents don't understand this.

Wow are you guys serious? Just because I used to play a certain style back in 2009 because it was the most profitable doesn't mean I cant adjust or develop my game.

The only reason I don't play higher is because I only had 500$ to cash in, have a ****ty internet connection in this country ( its like third world here) and been running millions under EV in chips. Still have close to 3K now.

Mark my words, in no time I will not only play and beat those 15$ or 30$ games that you guys claim i cant beat because I am a brainless pushbot, I will also beat them while playing 60-80 tables

Boom.

Show us those EV graphs bro

you though