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Bill Perkins Says Poker Heroes Involved Serious Cheating. Bilzerian Spills the Beans-Post 503 Bill Perkins Says Poker Heroes Involved Serious Cheating. Bilzerian Spills the Beans-Post 503

05-24-2020 , 02:00 AM
Postle was the best thread sweat this site has had in a looooooong time ... this one has potential but with Perkins at the helm I have a strong feeling we're gonna get The Marf II : Poker Heroes Rly? 50/50 Split? WTF
05-24-2020 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
The only reason I can think of for withholding names/details is if Bill is unsure of them, and doesn't want to soil reputations that don't deserve it. I don't know why he wouldn't just wait until he has correct information then if that were the case. I guess when you have that much money the only commodity you're able to thirst for is attention
I don't think even that's a good reason, by being as vague as he is it's led to baseless speculation against Galfond, Party, etc. If you don't want to soil the reputations of those that don't deserve it you should at least be specific enough to absolve the guy you're playing a HU match against who runs a poker site.
05-24-2020 , 02:02 AM
Yeah this doesn't look nearly as exciting until names drop. Then the real fun begins

Re: critiakx2 - Yes, very much agree.
05-24-2020 , 02:12 AM
Hot take - Are we really stroking Koon simply because he didn’t act like a total scumbag?
Good job Koon...
05-24-2020 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ProfessorEd
I have a solid source that has said this has something to do with "ghosting"

Player A is supposed to be some whale but it's actually a HSNL reg. So deception.

Also, FWIW... Bill Perkins / Dan Bilzerian were sharing their account playing on FTP... there is video of it. Please don't say Dan Bilzerian is a whale... guy is likely the biggest winner in poker history.

So hypocrisy?
He's more likelier to be laundering his Dad's money than likely to be the biggest winner in poker history.
05-24-2020 , 02:13 AM
My question is why Koon didn't blow the whistle to begin with and why it had to be Bill. That's my curiosity at the moment.
05-24-2020 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
My question is why Koon didn't blow the whistle to begin with and why it had to be Bill. That's my curiosity at the moment.
Because snitches get stitches
05-24-2020 , 02:24 AM
Joey Ingram hinted that this was likely PPP/Bros/Upoker/GG related. Was this baseless speculation based on whats probable? Given the largely unregulated nature of these apps I wouldn't be surprised that theres a POTRIPPER style scam going on across multiple app platforms.
05-24-2020 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by wtflmao
Because snitches get stitches
I don't know of a single pro who could take Koon in a fight
05-24-2020 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
I don't know of a single pro who could take Koon in a fight
Dan Blizzzzzz Bruuhhhhhh?
05-24-2020 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
I don't know of a single pro who could take Koon in a fight
Depending on the breadth and complexity of the scam, the ramifications of outing this would likely go beyond a simple fist fight. Could be anywhere from blows to what happened to Epstein. But we're unlikely to know any of this until we get more info. Comon Bill
05-24-2020 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
I don't know of a single pro who could take Koon in a fight
Olivier Busquet
05-24-2020 , 02:38 AM
Yeah who really knows at this point. If it's as big as Bill says it is, I wouldn't be surprised if threats were issued among the people who were in the know.
05-24-2020 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by King Fish
Olivier Busquet
Olivier did come to mind actually, kudos
05-24-2020 , 03:17 AM
IMO those who keep up with "poker world" current events could really use some clarification on this topic as soon as possible. Hopefully something superior to the slow news dingleberry drip that's going on in the Stones Gambling Hall scandal that this cheating is being compared to.

As other posters are bringing up ITT: the immediate, rampant speculation (both here and on Twitter) that has occurred in the minutes/hours after Bill Perkins' tweet is a net negative, even if it was an unintended (albeit logical and completely foreseeable) consequence.

"Poker heroes" and "cheating" make for very interesting speculation, but Bill Perkins could really advance the issue by at the very least defining the "who" and "what" more clearly (imo).
05-24-2020 , 03:17 AM
dhebermex/OP i for one am very impressed you took Perkins term >poker heroes< and put inverted commas around it


You beat my post by like 15 seconds there ^^

Last edited by bumpnrun; 05-24-2020 at 03:19 AM. Reason: OP posted again just before me
05-24-2020 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
I don't know of a single pro who could take Koon in a fight

05-24-2020 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
I don't know of a single pro who could take Koon in a fight
Who was that pro who turned to mma back in the day, even fought on a couple of cards in asia, Asian dude who used to be on the 2p2 podcast? Pretty sure he could **** Koon up..
05-24-2020 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bumpnrun
dhubermex/OP i for one am very impressed you took Perkins term >poker heroes< and put inverted commas around it


You beat my post by like 15 seconds there ^^
2+2 poster martinmarto actually got in three minutes before I did with the word "heroes" in quotes, which likewise was very encouraging to see.

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Cheers,

-David
05-24-2020 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mo$
This is what I'm hearing as well. Not sure who is involved yet.
05-24-2020 , 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
How much money is worth your reputation? Everyone has a price I guess. Seems so wild to me. Some pros can make a very good living playing the game legitimately, why risk trashing your name for a few extra million or whatever it was?
Yea just a few extra milly who cares chump change...most likely the dumbest thing I have read.
05-24-2020 , 03:51 AM
Damn what a juicy thread to wake up too. I picked the right time to get back into poker it seems.
05-24-2020 , 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JackBurton
This makes sense.

Speculation: Bill Perkins or one of his friends was playing on a club against other recreationals from USA or Asia, and those accounts were taken/sold to other highstakes pros without them knowing about it. Jason Koon was the only one who rejected the offered account it seems.
If this is all it is then i'm going to blow a gasket. I'd rate this -3/10 juicy
05-24-2020 , 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by madmansam
Durrr and Triton cash games(off stream) could be candidate. Phua has history of rigging games.
Yes robl ivey was said to have posted 2.5 million bail for paul back a few years ago when he got arrested in vegas
05-24-2020 , 04:07 AM
Funny you mention Robl. I came to post that my radar detected JRB as poker_hero_A.

I guess the pro is someone not ultra wealthy. (net worth < 10m)

      
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