Didn't Hastings buy/play on a fish account on Stars years ago and end up making reparations?

Want to say the SN had Jackie-somethingorother in it but I can't remember. (edit: looked it up. it was NoelHayes)

Has this parallel been discussed yet? I haven't read all 1k posts in this thread yet.

Cliffs basically:

lmao wp corey

perhaps he wasnt talented enough..
i am very likely not talented enough to beat high stakes, should i cheat? Should i make the assumption that, because i have to cheat to beat HS, linus and other crushers are cheating? No, they are more talented (and work harder). And when one of these huge talents get caught cheating we as a poker community should not look the other way.. like the Cyclists union didnt look away when armstrong got caught


ive watched it, very interesting

i also said: there are definitely clean cyclists in the tour, of course not all of them
never claimed the tour is juice free, thats an utopia like saying all of high stakes is cheat-free. But i say in both cases: condemn any wrongdoing before we just accept is as being there. We dont want the best cheater to win but the most talented or hardest working player to win, right? at least, i do

never claimed there is no cheating/doping going on, i just expressed that by allowing or tolerating it you get on a very slippy slope.. whats allowed as generally cheating but not a big deal next?

But i will say that there hasnt been a single bodybuilder ever who even thought about steroids, that should be very obvious :S

Fair enough, thumbs up

and to think I was ready to unsub this thread too

Last years winner had over 30 minutes faster finish than Armstrong had only 15 years ago when he was clearly using. Are you saying 2019 was not using but somehow got better results than another human being did only 15 years ago who was using? Is that a proof of less present steroids? Numbers dont lie.

There are no clean cyclists on the tour. Unless you believe some strongman competitors are using and some not, and Eddi Hall deadlifted 500kg naturally. If it makes no difference in results why would anyone do it at all?

No i am not saying that, you keep reading stuff that isnt there

i havent said anything about clean weightlifting
i havent made any specific allegation about any cyclist, i cant say that guy used or didnt use
i never said cheating wouldnt matter results-wise
you are arguing on claims i never made
i said when a player/cyclist gets caught for cheating he should be punished so it doesnt become acceptable in the community
but 15 years is a long time for things to improve, if i could play in the games of 15 years ago i would be able to beat hs without cheating but by your logic because linus is so much better than a guy who crushed 15 years ago (i dont know, prahlad, or is that even longer ago) linus must be cheating because the numbers dont lie

legit lol at photoshop

You said sterioids are less present nowadays which is absurd. And what is more absurd, saying some of them use but some are clean like its indifferent if you use or not, we can all compete together lol

Did you just compare physical limited skills(I can never learn to dunk from a free throw line) to cognitive skills(chess, math, poker) that can be mastered in time? Or I read that wrong too?

Holy **** nobody cares about Lance Armstrong, stop clogging up the ****ing thread.

Tony G would tell them "On yer bike".

It's not the topic of this thread, but there is this interview from the Triton Series with Trueteller and Rui Cao where they get asked about the current online environment. They both state that they aren't comfortable anymore to play HS online because of the usage of Software etc that doesn't conform with the platforms T&C (or in short - cheating).

It seems at least odd if you're still willing to play anyone and exclusively for the highest stakes (Linus and the other crushers) under these circumstances, while the next best talent doesn't even feel safe to play at all.

fine so you agree cheaters shouldnt play with the 'clean' players, i think so too
so lets shun jungleman
i wont clog the thread anymore before it becomes even less disappointing

CoreySteel cliffs better than mine.

...or, someone brought a gun to a knife fight ?

I hope that all these basement kids who made their money at the poker tables and endorse cheating (or how they call it 'creating edges if none are there') will someday, when they try to take their money into business environments, find themselves suckered by one of these whales and eventually loose all they have.
Having a condescending attitude amongst everybody who doesn't play poker at their level (even if the person made billions in an environment thats far more competitive than freakin poker) is apparently not enough - you also got to cheat whenever the opportunity arises.

The salient silence from the HS scene combined with these other scums that approve Jungles action gave me a whole new notion of the poker world in general.

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2020/...ting-37330.htm

its condoned, ok

all these billionaires are so very clean and honest am I right?

covfefe

It's obvious to me at this point Jungleman is a full blown sociopath. I've lost all respect for Schulman as well who is condoning this type of behavior. Viffer, you can just look at him and tell he is a POS.

Majority of poker pros are just a bunch of entitled cry babies. Most have little to no life skills (obv some exceptions). Almost no humility or gratefulness from pro "heroes." Where is the gratefullness you don't have to physical work for money? No boss and can make your own schedule? They behave like they are some genius because they play a game, A GAME.

Constantly complaining about what's ruining the game. The #1 thing ruining the game is you sorry regs. Tanking every hand, hostile stare downs, complaining, belittling players who aren't good, scrutinizing the tiniest mistake. Most people are just trying to have fun. That's why poker is such a great game, because it's a fun recreational activity. They are there to relax and not be so serious.

High stakes pros act like business and recs are obligated to play with them in the games. They don't owe them a thing. Lot's of people play basketball for a fun and recreational activity. If you were forced to play bball with Lebron every game, it would eventually suck all the fun out of the game.

If the rec players want to test their skills vs a pro, they can set up a game to do so. These players did not want to test their skills vs pros.

Props to Bill and Dan for making this public. Jungle should lose all endorsements and invites to televised games.

translation: I'm kind of sorry but not really because other people are cheating too. If I want this to stop, I need to set an example and stop cheating. I'll TRY to make this right.

What a knob.

Really hard to wrap your head around a scumbag being a scumbag?

sauce with the boys will be boys defense. i would avoid taking action on RIO and certainly wouldn't play the owner at high stakes.