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05-01-2023 , 02:21 PM

WindyCityDonkey

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Bill Perkins decides to leave to catch his flight after river shoving in a pot over half a million dollars. I know he is rich, but quite an interesting and entertaining move.

https://twitter.com/LodgePokerClub/s...luff-43463.htm

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05-01-2023 , 02:36 PM

Conan776

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I've definitely done the thing where l've shoved, stood up, put my coat on, shouldered my backpack, declared "whelp, I guess it's just time to go home," looked at my watch, searched my pockets, asked the table if anyone had a bus schedule or knew when the next bus was, opened Uber on my phone and started typing in a pick up request, etc. but I've never actually straight up left. This is definitely a next level move.

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05-01-2023 , 02:38 PM

WindyCityDonkey

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Edit: meant to put "leaves table" in the title.

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05-01-2023 , 03:04 PM

Joe-exotic69

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Rich people doing rich people things

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05-01-2023 , 03:20 PM

pocket_zeros

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Seems unfair to allow this since opponent won't have the benefit of being able to look at the departed player to evaluate any live tells.

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05-01-2023 , 03:30 PM

PointlessWords

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In most states once you leave the room you have abandoned your hand.

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05-02-2023 , 10:52 AM

answer20

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Not a big deal .. He's all-in and as a courtesy to a High Roller he will be informed of (and can watch the replay of) the result. It's not like he actually has to walk his chips up to a cage for these types of games. They just debit/credit his account that was used to fund the BI. GL

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05-02-2023 , 11:15 AM

Gzesh

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Originally Posted by answer20

Did he turn his cards face up ?

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05-02-2023 , 11:32 AM

answer20

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Another courtesy to HR Players. He's all-in and it's assumed if he gets called the hand needs to be tabled by the Dealer .. if he doesn't give someone permission to do so.

You really think that if Phil Ivey says "I'm all-in, gotta hit the head .. lemme know what happened" that his hand is not going to be tabled? GL

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05-02-2023 , 11:36 AM

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Once I was playing 2/5 nl in Daytona. Some clown in sunglasses tanked on the river for a couple of mins. I called the clock. I had to piss really bad and asked the dealer if my hand was dead if i went to the bathroom. he said no. I said ok if he calls turn my hand over and push the pot to the winner. When I came back Mr Sunglasses was irate because he had called, lost (to second pair lol- think long think wrong) and was trying to say my hand was dead. He ended up getting kicked out.

I thought telling the dealer to turn my hand over if he calls when I'm in the bathroom was a good move but Perkins pulled a hall of fame pimp move.

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05-02-2023 , 12:03 PM

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FWWM

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That's a funny one actually, worth watching. Questionable though, regardless of whatever the house rules are, cos absence is not really in the spirit of live poker...

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05-02-2023 , 12:44 PM

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borg23

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Originally Posted by FWWM

That's a funny one actually, worth watching. Questionable though, regardless of whatever the house rules are, cos absence is not really in the spirit of live poker...

well his other option was to call the clock and the hand would have been over 5 mins faster

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05-02-2023 , 02:01 PM

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Eeyorefora

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Originally Posted by FWWM

That's a funny one actually, worth watching. Questionable though, regardless of whatever the house rules are, cos absence is not really in the spirit of live poker...

im just wondering if this would be covered under gaming law.

He leaves, so its a forfeit, in my opinion.

Not a pimp move, just dumb.
Evidently he can afford it and not figure out how to make your private flight wait 5 minutes

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05-02-2023 , 04:24 PM

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borg23

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lol@gaming law- it's ****ing Texas!

There's no way it should be a fold his action is complete.

Hypothetically if someone did this in blackjack- let's say they doubled down and just walked ago the casino can't just take their chips if they won.

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05-02-2023 , 04:30 PM

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Eeyorefora

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Originally Posted by borg23

his action of revealing his cards?

thats part of it when called, player shows or folds....

one player to a hand.

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05-02-2023 , 04:36 PM

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borg23

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Originally Posted by Eeyorefora

his action of revealing his cards?

thats part of it when called, player shows or folds....

one player to a hand.

well being verbal is binding telling the dealer "if he calls turn my cards over" seems to suffice.
It's also a private streamed game and nobody in the game has a problem with it. Although I'm sure if Handz had an issue with it he'd get quite far with the Texas gaming control board.

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05-02-2023 , 04:41 PM

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Eeyorefora

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well being verbal is binding telling the dealer "if he calls turn my cards over" seems to suffice.

It's also a private streamed game and nobody in the game has a problem with it. Although I'm sure if Handz had an issue with it he'd get quite far with the Texas gaming control board.

thats what im wondering, if the dealer is allowed to touch his cards and act upon "cards speak" in that instance.

Be hilarious if somehow this spurred the state to define once and for all if card rooms were legal.

And they say no.

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05-02-2023 , 09:04 PM

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PointlessWords

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Great example of privilege

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05-02-2023 , 10:46 PM

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madmansam

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great entertainment. bonus points to perkins for doing it with air. all you nits arguing over the letter of the law and complaining about this, you are why live poker is often miserable instead of fun.

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05-02-2023 , 11:50 PM

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smoothcriminal99

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He was being considerate and letting the guy think instead of calling clock. He announced it was his last hand everyone knew he had time constraints handz wanted to take 10mins thinking about the river shove so don’t see a better option for him.

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05-03-2023 , 01:36 AM

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Yogurt Daddy

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These responses are why it’s hard to get invites to juicy private games.

Crying about rules when there’s clearly no ill intent.

And yes, this was a private game.

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05-03-2023 , 01:39 AM

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Yogurt Daddy

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Originally Posted by Eeyorefora

Nothing to wonder about. It was within the rules/etiquette of the specific game.

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05-03-2023 , 01:49 AM

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Gabethebabe

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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros

Seems unfair to allow this since opponent won't have the benefit of being able to look at the departed player to evaluate any live tells.

Yeah, the other players were really upset and frustrated when he did that. Except that it was the opposite

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05-03-2023 , 02:04 AM

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Carnivore

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This is kind of like being all in online and then just shutting down your computer or phone or whatever. You'll still get the pot.

If that wasn't the case, he could just call the clock instead.

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05-03-2023 , 02:05 AM

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JimL

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Originally Posted by Yogurt Daddy

These responses are why it’s hard to get invites to juicy private games.

Crying about rules when there’s clearly no ill intent.

And yes, this was a private game.

This, this, and more this!!!

There is no angle here. If anything, it hurts Perkins. He is literally giving his opponent unlimited time to think about the decision.

I understand that rules exist in poker for a reason, but the most important rule of poker is spirit of the game. Anyone who wants to rule this an abandoned hand and give his opponent the pot, deserves to grind it out at crappy $1/$3 and $2/$5 games for the rest of their miserable life.

This is a baller move and great for the game.

That said, is folding the 2nd nuts here unreasonable?

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