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Originally Posted by Skallagrim
I am giving up answering questions in this thread. I am giving it up because it simply does no good. If I fight with posters I am unprofessional, if I don't fight with posters and try and generate unity, I am a wimp. I answer questions and get asked the same questions again. I post facts and the facts are ignored. One anonymous lawyer who has never tried to help the legal situation himself posts a critique and it is accepted as the be all and end all of legal analysis simply because it makes the PPA look bad. So be it. Quite frankly, I don't give a damn what any one thinks of me personally. I am just a simple player who has tried to do what he could to better the legal situation of poker players - I have no personal stake in this fight beyond that.
I intend to continue to my efforts, but it is clear to me that this is not the place to devote any more time. Minds are already made up and what effort I as one person can provide is clearly better used elsewhere.
So, say what you want, think what you want. Despite this thread there are still hundreds of thousands of poker players who want to work with the PPA and try and improve both the PPA and our effort to change the law. So that is who I will work with.
The rest of you can just continue to bitch and moan in this thread, essentially making yourself (thankfully) irrelevant to poker's future, or you can go and do something without the PPA.
To those who want to work with me, you know where to find me.
Good luck to all.
Skallagrim
reading this post tilted me horribly and i guess a mod deleted my reply so i'll start over having taken a couple deep breaths and try to post something more constructive
skall: i don't doubt for a second you have worked hard since taking up your position with the PPA. where i take issue, as i stated my in my initial post in this thread, is that with every passing PPA thread the organization looks more and more amateurish and it's more and more disillusioning because the fact of the matter is this is the only organization poker players have and look at where we are now.
you yourself even basically admitted that the PPA is filled with amateurs.
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I am just a simple player who has tried to do what he could to better the legal situation of poker players - I have no personal stake in this fight beyond that.
apparently this is enough to make you a board member. suhweeeeeeeeeet
you seem to want people to acknowledge that you have all worked very hard and it was an uphill battle and yadda yadda yadda. yea ok, you probably worked hard. so what? where did that get us? we are currently sitting in what from day 1 was the worst case scenario with a lot of money currently frozen. i have donated to the PPA, i have followed all the form letters to legislation the PPA wanted players to send. i have done pretty much everything in every sticky ever posted in PPA or legistlation. i do not thank you for your efforts and will not ever thank you for your efforts. why? because while you may point to these things that the PPA has done the fact of the matter is that online poker is for all intents and purposes gone from the country save for rouge sites i wouldn't trust with a wooden nickel, and it's now entirely in the hands of the courts and congress whether or not it'll ever come back.
a common sentiment ITT has been "well if you don't like it why don't you do something?" it is WAY too late to start from the ground floor. the PPA began 6 years ago and i doubt very much it would be possible to start another organization from the ground up and hope for any reasonable success in the near future. all we can really do is voice our displeasure with how things have been run in the hopes that the organization will change direction going forward.
my biggest frustration is the fact that it seems like unless you are a charter board member in the PPA fighting on the front lines, your critiques are seen as invalid or trolling or you're irrelevant in the eyes of that organization. yea ok dude. whatever you say.
i said the PPA reminds me of clay davis. i stand by that.
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So, say what you want, think what you want. Despite this thread there are still hundreds of thousands of poker players who want to work with the PPA and try and improve both the PPA and our effort to change the law. So that is who I will work with.
The rest of you can just continue to bitch and moan in this thread, essentially making yourself (thankfully) irrelevant to poker's future, or you can go and do something without the PPA.
you behave like a petulant child and this is exactly the reason the PPA fails. the opposition to poker is clear and yet you still decide this should instead be a civil war amongst players, alienating yourself from a large player base because you only want to work with people are nice to you. you dismiss critiques as trolling because they're being mean to you yet in the same breath you validate them. it is 100% clear that EVERYONE needs to be on a unified front if anything is to ever be achieved yet you basically tell people who don't like your ideas "**** off, we don't need you."
the NRA has a member base of 4 million. congress does not take a **** unless the NRA says they can go to the bathroom. unfortunately your "hundreds of thousands" won't cause anyone to take notice. your delusion and your hyper-sensitivity is very upsetting