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03-29-2019 , 08:36 PM
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Problem tho is that Jnandez plays a lot of Zoom, which isn't generally tracked, so he might still be profitable overall. All it potentially proofs is that he is unable to beat stakes above 500PLO. He lost 111K at 2000PLO, 17 bb/100 over 33K hands.

I think he saw how his career plateaued and started his training site to bank while he still could beat his current stakes. The 100K challenge is a marketing scheme. It would've been okay for micro/low stakes grinders, but 99$ is a little too ambitious since RIO costs the same. I really wonder what kinda of person would buy the subscription.
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03-29-2019 , 09:00 PM
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I mean it's no big deal really that someone loses playing 10/20 plo online or higher. Those stakes are virtually unbeatable. There are very few fish and the regs are the best in the business. Almost everyone would lose at those stakes.
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03-29-2019 , 09:05 PM
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Wow. It's only 69k hands, but still, that's a lot to lose at those stakes. Do you know what date range this covers?
I think it starts from April 2018 until present.
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03-29-2019 , 09:25 PM
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Doug should hang that graph next to fullflush’s if he ever does a vid again
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03-30-2019 , 05:54 PM
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That´s regular tables, no zoom, right?
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03-30-2019 , 06:49 PM
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Doug should hang that graph next to fullflush’s if he ever does a vid again
Has all of JNandez's content been pulled from the Upswing site? Even if so, do you think it's a good idea to say, "Look, these are the results of the coach we had you paying money to learn from." by showing that graph? I can't see how that's a good idea either way.
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03-30-2019 , 07:45 PM
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That´s regular tables, no zoom, right?
Right. Zoom can't be tracked as of a few years ago. I have no idea how they managed to track it before, but russian ptr did.
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03-31-2019 , 05:53 PM
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JNandez was showing his graph for 2018 year in one of his videos (i think on Youtube) and he was definitely up (more than $100k iirc).
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04-01-2019 , 01:21 AM
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Has all of JNandez's content been pulled from the Upswing site? Even if so, do you think it's a good idea to say, "Look, these are the results of the coach we had you paying money to learn from." by showing that graph? I can't see how that's a good idea either way.

They kinda did that with Ryan Fee recent 100k challenge and soon 200k challenge, but that is very misleading since Fee is more of a Highstake PLO and Jnandez is more of a mid-stakes guy.

I have no skin in this since I'm not a subscriber to Upswing or Jnandez course.
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04-01-2019 , 11:32 AM
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JNandez was showing his graph for 2018 year in one of his videos (i think on Youtube) and he was definitely up (more than $100k iirc).
Why should he show a negative graph when selling his mastermind?

You can easily delete sessions at PokerTracker to manipulate your database
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04-01-2019 , 02:22 PM
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Why should he show a negative graph when selling his mastermind?

You can easily delete sessions at PokerTracker to manipulate your database
The Russian Poker Tracker results could clear that if it still exists as it did a couple of years ago when I saw his results posted here. He was a winning 500z player, losing like the rake at PLO400 and 600, winning at 1k and losing at 2k.

He has posted his results of 2017 and 2018 where 2017 had maybe 300k winnings and 2018 had like 200k winnings (2018 Stars results).

In 2018 he played like 500k hands at Stars and of that like 15k hands at 2k zoom and like 15k hands at 2k regular where he lost like 20k at the regular and won like 60k at zoom. All but 100k hands were played at 500z that had a winrate of 5bb/100.
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