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The biggest Crushers and Losers per game on Stars The biggest Crushers and Losers per game on Stars

02-26-2019 , 03:33 PM
If you didn't know yet; statname has been tracking player results for a while now, pretty much like Highstakesdb used to do before they went to ****.

They don't track all games obviously as you can't track zoom too well or the lower stakes. But here are the crushers according to the games they have tracked.

Winners


Losers
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02-26-2019 , 03:42 PM
The last 12 months winners:


The last 12 months losers:
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02-26-2019 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Congrats to BERRI SWEET for managing to be the 2nd, 8th and 20th biggest winner despite being the 5th biggest loser.
If was thinking the same that's so weird
You'd think he could beat 10K PLO if he can beat 20K and 40K, but maybe he just needs a bigger sample size
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02-26-2019 , 04:25 PM
Who’s imagineking?
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02-26-2019 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbum983
Who’s imagineking?
Unknown, he was already known as a mega loser when highstakesdb was still around https://www.highstakesdb.com/profile...agineKing.aspx

It's quite impressive how bad he is, his graph is a consistent masterpiece.
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02-26-2019 , 04:50 PM
Would be better if the results were not separated by stakes but instead aggregated by game type (NLH/PLO/6max/HU).
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02-26-2019 , 06:01 PM
Another really interesting factoid is how different the blue/red line graphs are when it comes to LLinusLLove and OtB_RedBaron, I would assume the difference is in how each plays their hands, Aggression and the such. Or maybe because OTB plays more HU?

LLinusLLove



OtB_RedBaron
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02-26-2019 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MilkMan
Would be better if the results were not separated by stakes but instead aggregated by game type (NLH/PLO/6max/HU).
True and also ****ty that they don't have an Opt-Out option.
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02-26-2019 , 06:10 PM
Very cool. Where is isildurs loses at?
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02-26-2019 , 07:12 PM
long break even stretch for otb
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02-26-2019 , 07:30 PM
I don't think losing the most money means being the worst player ever, but most of all having enough money and wanting to play vs the best for fun.

Sorry if it's too much derail, but I wonder how many bb/100 would a random NVG breakeven 50NL player lose vs high stakes regs that have stats/reads on him?
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02-26-2019 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Lyamani
The last 12 months winners:
https://i.imgur.com/o1IYG9k.png
Is Bill Perkins really up 100 buy-ins at 5k PLO?
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02-27-2019 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Grothendieck
Is Bill Perkins really up 100 buy-ins at 5k PLO?
It's on 888 not ps,so probably not bill perkins account.
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02-27-2019 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by matthmit
It's on 888 not ps,so probably not bill perkins account.
To be fair tho, the real GASTRADER was also profitable at 5000 PLO, just not very profitable, and over a small sample size.

5000PLO



His full graph
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02-27-2019 , 03:30 AM
So this only tracks NLHE and PLO? And only since 2015 it would appear?
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02-27-2019 , 03:47 AM
Legendary Isildur confirmed
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02-27-2019 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mukdukaluk
So this only tracks NLHE and PLO? And only since 2015 it would appear?
Yes, and as far as I know it's used by the 500NL guys to keep track.
Someone should combine this with highstakesdb to create a complete picture
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02-27-2019 , 04:42 AM
jnandez down a ton, funny how all these training site pros turn out to be massive whales
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02-27-2019 , 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
jnandez down a ton, funny how all these training site pros turn out to be massive whales
One very respected plo mid-highstakes player said jnandez was an endboss at plo
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02-27-2019 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
One very respected plo mid-highstakes player said jnandez was an endboss at plo
But to be fair, even OTB has been struggling lately. No one in this game seems to have longevity. There was a moment in time where Ziigmund was up $7 million. Now he has to scrape by on Stars.

The only success stories are the guys who made the big heists and then split once they lost their edge. Or those who managed to maintain their edges over the last decade like Cates, Sauce, Ben86 and surprisingly; Isildur1 (to some extant).

BiatchPeople for example was the perfect weasel, he got into 2-7 TD relatively early on and made millions off bum-hunting Gus Hansen. Once he felt Isildur1 and RaulGonzales/Saniker caught up and were ahead of him, he quit and split with $4.6 million. But not before proofing his edge was gone by dropping $2.2 million. He had nearly $7 million at his height.

Kanu7 is another great example. He was crushing HU NLHE, but never managed to reach the topspot. He made +- $5 million then realized that it wasn't profitable for him anymore. The only people who wanted to play him, like Sauce, TrueTeller and WCGRider, crushed him. He realized the gig was up and left with $4.6 million.

Doug and JNandez probably can break even on the top games at the very least, but then again very few people can beat them as it is. Doug probably can compete in HU NLHE, but I doubt he can compete for the topspot. I guess this is just how the game works. In a couple years it might go a little something like "Hi Guys, OTB here, welcome to my Stream"

Last edited by Lyamani; 02-27-2019 at 01:15 PM.
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02-27-2019 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Lyamani
BiatchPeople for example was the perfect weasel, he got into 2-7 TD relatively early on and made millions off bum-hunting Gus Hansen. Once he felt Isildur1 and RaulGonzales/Saniker caught up and were ahead of him, he quit and split with $4.6 million. But not before proofing his edge was gone by dropping $2.2 million. He had nearly $7 million at his height.
Don't forget Niklas "ragen70" Heinecker, the biggest winner of 2013. At his peak, he was making $94 per hand. He made close to 10 million online in two years, in a period when Gus donated a similar amount. I think Ragen managed to quit before taking any significant losses. His final Hendon Mob entry was his $4.5m win in the Guang Dong Millions, 2013. Talk about quitting while you're ahead!
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02-27-2019 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
One very respected plo mid-highstakes player said jnandez was an endboss at plo

ive been watching his stream and he seems like he'd just be the best player at 200plo


not that there's anything wrong with that. crushing 200 and supplementing with soft 5/5 and 5/10 shots live games is my goal.


he should stop beating his head against this 100k challenge though. he's been doing some questionable stuff that doesn't fly when you're taking on regs at 500z
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02-27-2019 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
One very respected plo mid-highstakes player said jnandez was an endboss at plo
This is certainly fake news. Why didn't you just name the person.
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02-27-2019 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lyamani

LLinusLLove
Opening myself to get trolled here, but can anyone explain how this was possible? Cindy’s looked similar on bovada, but iirc that was mostly from stabbing small/mid explo spots that were recognized as under-defended in a mass anonymous db. This was against the best regs on stars, all of whom also bluff/station/vb thin as a default; but unless I’m mistaken, they don’t seem to have anywhere near this incline. What did he do for 300k hands that was so vastly different? Ahead of the curve with solvers (idk if he even was)?
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02-27-2019 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
jnandez down a ton, funny how all these training site pros turn out to be massive whales
Graph?

He plays ton of Zoom that isn´t tracked...
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