I mean why would they sit around for all this time trying to negotiate, then make a big fuss about GBT not paying people back fast enough, then sit on their ass for a year? I don't see it happening.

The DOJ is *following a process*. It will take as long as it takes. It has nothing to do with the new FTP, the political climate, or the phases of the moon, for that matter.

Myself and others have said this 10234785023450897 times. Maybe eventually it will sink in.

Personally I think that process may happen faster than other remissions cases, because the situation is simpler, not because of any other factor. But who knows. A year is far from impossible.

Yup, Im guessing we are paid by sometime in the middle of 2013 and hopeful it will be earlier in 2013, but that's a realistic timeframe. Not sure why people think it has anything to do with FTP's ROW relaunch, it clearly doesnt.

Mid 2013?? No way, it wont be till like february of 2038282.... now thats a realistic time frame guys come on!

it should be before that, hopefully the company handling it does not have a few million in administration costs every month and use up most of the fund before checks start going out -


Does anyone know what FTP points are worth? roughly...

OK, I'll concede that getting the game servers moved to IoM was on the timeline for Stars to give ROW players access. It wasn't on eh timeline for FTP to figure out what was owing. But the DoJ doesn't even have the necessary servers at all, let alone ones they can just move from one site to another.

Since you're speculating, why did the DOJ require a 90 day repayment time frame for ROW? (Above) you just stated how the two situations are factually different.

What was the reason/motive behind the specific 90 day requirement? Why would that same reason/motive not apply to US players?

Thats an easy one to answer. DOJ wanted to ensure any private company that purchased the assets of FTP had the money on hand to pay back the ROW. Its more a issue that they had the funds on hand to pay back the ROW rather then trying to raise the money later on.

But why would it not apply to US players? Why did the DOJ not hand out a timeline for their remission process? I do realize it could take a bit to find a 3rd party processor but that seems to have been taken care of fairly quickly...

DTM, I don't understand your reference to suppliers, etc. making claims and slowing down remission. The DoJ no longer has any interest in FTP. They had the assets, not liabilities, and then "sold" them as part of a massive fine/settlement. The DoJ has no reason to deal with anyone but the players.

I have been gone for a few days. Where does/has it said that a 3rd party has been found? I haven't seen a discussion regarding a contract signed. So, if no contract has been signed yet, then how do you know the 90day clause won't be in it?

According to Eli, its all but signed.... maybe you should read up sir.

Good point, rich. I don't remember any such announcement.

Eli is not official.

Maybe there is a time line in the process in the contract but I highly doult it would be 90 days. It took the first 30 days just to send out a contract to find a processor. My gut feeling is when the remission process starts, it going to take a while to complete all US players.

I imagine the DOJ is interested both it doing it correctly and in a time manner.

This seems to me to be quite in contrast with Eli's first post. But, maybe it's just me that see's it that way!

Wonder where his "source" went??? Gee, if some of the people here had not told me different I might even think he's just guessing!

"I imagine", "I highly doubt it" and "my gut feeling" are hardly characteristic terms for a person with a reliable "source". Are they? Personally, I think not. But, again that's just my opinion!

That makes sense. However, they could have just required that they have the money immediately available for full withdrawal upon relaunch of the site, without a specific time requirement.

So I still question why they chose the time requirement over that alternative option.

If he's not a troll, I'd assume he just doesn't want to keep bothering whoever he talked to with every 2p2 question.

I have 1938Ford blocked but i see him quoted, what does he have to gain by being right, is he really just that desperate to say "I told you so" that this guy Eli whos giving information ended up being a troll or his "source" ends up being off a week or two again. Its pathetic Ford bashes somebody who says they have a source/information, who shares that information and then Ford sits around running his mouth, while he sits at home completely clueless with what is actually going on but acts like hes a know it all and doesnt have a single dime locked up on FTP. Due us all a favor Ford and get lost, you have no business at all in this thread.

I don't often take to defending myself, because what I post here is news, views and gossip. I really don't care if readers here agree or disagree with what I post. Usually my posts include verifiable facts to support my opinions and conclusions and I invite and encourage people to read the information and decide for themselves what to think. I post for those members that find them useful or informative, and because I care that members here have some accurate and factual information to consider instead of the nonsense people like you post.

You don't like that? I could give a rip! Nobody forces you or anybody else to read the posts I make. But, should you choose to do so and make comment it might make more sense if you actually commented based on fact, not your own fictional account of who or what I am.

I've made no secret about my opinion of Eli. I think he is a fake and a liar. Period. I hope I am wrong, but all evidence available to me indicates I am not. If you find that offensive or if you don't like my opinion....too bad. It's just MY opinion based on MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE LAW AND DEALING WITH THE DOJ. I will go on the record here again and say categorically there is not a snowball's chance in hell any US player will ever receive a remissions check within 10 days of submitting their petition for remission and that statement alone told me all I needed to know about Eli's veracity. If you think otherwise I think you are delusional.

But, here are some facts for you. You are the one that is clueless. You don't know me, or anything about me. I have read your posts and clearly you have absolutely zero idea of the remissions process or what to expect in the weeks and months to come, yet you continually post your fervent hopes and opinions on the subject. Get a clue, read up and at least become "informed" before you lash out with the slings and arrows BS!

But here's one for you to consider. I have a source, close to you and in the know, that says you are a syphilitic idiot. So, will it be pathetic when you or somebody else bashes me because now I'm somebody who says they have a source/information without any proof at all to support my assertions?

Guys I cant tell you how frustrating, annoying, and infuriating it is to be a player like myself (with actual money that im waiting to get back from FTP) to have to read through pages of this utter drivel to find some ACTUAL answers.

Is there any news as of late that is correct, confirmed, and true that is free of theory and the such?

Thank you.

It's mostly random speculation, views, and gossip

How pithy and witty...and at the same time useless.

Only facts we know for sure is that 1938Ford does not have a single dime on FTP and is not waiting to collect a single dime from FTP, yet thinks we want to hear his negativity and donkey opinion over and over in a long winded rant that he claims are "facts" yet he has no clue about what is currently going on with FTP and payouts.

Shortest DTM post of all time!!!!!

Does the DOJ need the servers? I would think they just need spread sheets with FTP player info/account balance/points/ect. Don't know if those can be separated at all tho... as in the SS's are on the servers, idk.

I think we deserve a damn press release already. Jesus!! I am sincerely happy for all the row players getting paid but come on man USA DoJ made this all happen, let us in on the program.