Heh...

[The slow train finally pulls into the station]

Can't believe I missed the connection before, of course you inserted yourself into me / eli's conversation, you are eli. After taking a quick look at both your posting histories, you have similar sentence structure and style, misspellings, grammatical errors, both type "don t" and "can t" with invisible apostrophes followed (randomly it seems) by typing "do not" and "can not" fully instead of abbreviating. Guess you forgot to log back into your troll account, it happens to the best of trolls so don't sweat it.

Eli = DavidNB. Mystery solved (if it was ever a mystery) - Hopefully the ban hammer smacks you "both" in your boy parts.

I partly agree, I hate filling this thread or seeing this thread filled with anything but ANSWERS to the big question facing US players. Sadly, and counter to your point that "we can sort out the BS without [my] help" it seems that many people here were not and are not able to deduce from eli's / david's posts that he is a troll. Eli-David and I are not bickering though, i'm making points (which should be obvious, as you said) that show he is a troll, and i'm doing so for the benefit of those being trolled by him. My previous post was going to be my last with regards to eli and his e-lies, but I had to publicly implicate David as being Eli now that the slow pony (me) finally got caught up and made the connection. I apologize if this was a derail but it seems pretty related considering Eli did not disappear into the shadows as he should, after his "insider info" [generalizations and assumptions] did not come to fruition.

It would cost way more to refund deposits than account balances, because the balances don't include all the rake taken by full tilt but the original deposits do. The article is dumb and not a reason for concern.

and who says the DOJ has to follow all the rules themselves? it wouldn't surprise me if there was some legal loophole where they can just refund deposits only on accounts that have a + balance.

1)if you deposited $500 in jan 2010 and lost it all and haven't touched online poker since. you're not getting anything back.

2) you deposited $500 in jan 010. lost it all. deposited $300 in april 010 and somehow ran it up to $8000 when black friday hit. they can just decide to pay you $300 and pocket that $7700 themselves.

so where is all this "refunds will cost them way more than account balances" talk coming from? noone knows all the legal laws regarding this yet

Please just stop. Really. I realize this is a possible scenario. But I guess it's also possible that the universe will collapse upon itself spontaneously. Don't hold your breath for either to happen though.

lol, owned

This actually explains a lot! wp

request for mod to IP trace davidnbs and eli's posting history. that same grammatical errors is too convincing

Skall--

Thanks for your efforts and communication. One small point: For many players (especially winning players who did not often deposit or only deposited once many years ago) a detail like this may have been forgotten. I expect this is already the DOJ's intention with respect to the remissions plan, but there should be several alternate ways/paths to verify accounts so that not having one piece of information front of mind will not excessively slow down the process.

Cliffs pls?

As in, are there any developments or a link to a remittance form/application?

no and no

I guess we should hear something before the year is out. When something of significance is announced it will be in a separate thread, probably at the top of the page.

Thank you.

Interesting insider knowlege, Eli.

Seems highly likely.

You ignored the question of whether this was inside info. I can tell you it was not, yet you decided to ignore this rather than be upfront about it.

DF had already made this information public in these forums and (I believe, but didn't double check iirc, on a podcast).

No. I am too.

I identified who said it for you. All it takes is a search for posts by Diamond Flush along with the term 'limbo funds.' I forgive you for not doing that. I do not forgive you for continuing to post here with a claim of insider knowledge.

She commented on it on June 14, 2012. Well before Eli ever appeared here. This information has been out there for quite some time. I would think you would have remembered this, DavidNb. And I would think you would have pretended to not know about it, Eli, which you did. You're unbELIevable.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=29542

Man we were told that like 20 times in the FTP thread. Someone is really trying to pass that off now as new? Lol

This threads almost as painful as the original

Lol. This is how they caught the unabomber. Writing style is as good ad fingerprint identification.

Yeah an IP trace seems unneccesary and I would expect eli/david to be gone from this thread going forward. The responding to a post directed at eli+wring still is very conclusive.

In fairness to DavidNB, he responds to every post that ends in a question mark as if it were directed at him.

Not sure how writing style because wring still lol.

Yes I was told this from my source. I wasn't aware of DF posting the same information. I read the link and yes she does mention balancing accounts but doesn't mention phantom deposits by name. It would be common sense to deduct these deposits from the existing accounts anyways.

David, why even hide behind this alias now? Also, why do you care so much if you aren't even US?

Is this guy serious? Caught red handed and he keeps posting under the alias ?

You are a blatant liar and troll now. You have no source, but if you did, the last thing we'd to know are the things we've known for months.


You mentioned in a message to me that a lot of your posts were based on "common sense" and as I replied to you in the message (except i'll use less profanity here) ,

we're not interested in your F*ing troll "common sense" you piece of s* troll m*f*.

We're not interested in your "new news" based on your "common sense" presented to us as if its from an "inside source".

You are a disgusting, pathetic troll, you've been busted by a guy with 18 posts, and now anyone who wanted to believe you realizes that you have been lying the whole time.

And trust me that I wanted to believe you.

David / Eli, take a long walk off a short cliff please.

How are my American friends doing? I haven't followed this story. Any developments?

I have been reading the ***OFFICIAL FTP ACCOUNT ISSUES THREAD***
You can find it here on the first page. I do not know what % of people are affected but there are plenty of stories of accounts missing money due to withdrawals requested but never processed and/or received. Also missing points for merchandise ordered but not received as well as no additional points for ironman medals that should have been converted.

This was supposed to be already dealt with. As US players are almost certain not to get value for their points anytime soon only the missing money would be of concern at this time. For the ROW FT has responded to some people saying that they will have to check with their processors. It does not seem that the DOJ would be checking with FT's US processors for missing funds.

Skallagrim, I am sure the PPA will be bringing this issue up with the DOJ as again it seems that the accounting work that FT said was done is actually incomplete. What a surprise.

I had some withdrawal issues for a couple of months prior to BF so my balance could read any one of 4 different possibilities. This should be fun.

I have to wait until the light is blinking to post this. Looks like no more internet again for me soon.

+1 I know I had a pending withdrawal as well.

I'm sure it was reported in other places, but the original place we heard about the phantom deposits was from Subject: Poker in August, 2011.

-http://www.subjectpoker.com/2011/08/...y-much-larger/