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Old 11-15-2006, 11:40 AM   #101
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

Some kid who plays in one of the local underground games says he knows the kid who runs pokes poker and he's a 21 year old who runs the site himself from a couple of computers in his bedroom. What a joke.
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Old 11-15-2006, 01:33 PM   #102
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

They've closed pokespoker to american players, supposedly for a short while until they switch to a new network.
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Old 11-16-2006, 07:50 PM   #103
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

Mail from Pokes:
"Players are currently unable to access the poker network and it doesn't appear like the service will be functional until the new network is integrated.

We are told the poker service should reopen sometime by Monday, the 20th of November. More information will be provided as its made available, so please continue to look out for updates.

Thanks,
Support"
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Old 11-18-2006, 09:51 AM   #104
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

This is from Reno.net, but it's a futurebet site, and has the same support phone number as pokes:

Today:

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Thomas: What can I do for you?

Nielsio: 1.
There's a large delay on my withdrawel

Nielsio: 2. Can you tell me about what's going on with ongame, futurebet, poker, etc?

Thomas: I do apologize with the very very long delay with your withdrawal. This site is having delays as you can see. Mostly due to US players cashing out, resulting in delays. I do not have any new information regarding it. All I can as of you is to be patient with us.

Thomas: As for the poker Network.

Thomas: We are having some problems with the poker client for the past few days. However, we have started phase one of the transition to the new network.

Thomas: During this time, there will be no poker game play available - both real money and play money.

Thomas: We are hoping to have this up and running next week.

Nielsio: ok, ty
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:55 AM   #105
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

Anyone from Pokes poker or Bayou poker is a complete scumbag. How insane is this that we even have to worry about something so ridiculous as getting our OWN money back. I cashed out in last September and I still haven't gotten my money. Pokes poker owes me over $15k. They are so pathetic that they won't even respond to your emails. Then they have the audacity to send out a statement instructing everyone NOT to write them anymore emails reagarding their cashouts. If anyone from Pokes poker reads this, Go **ck yourself you **ick. You ***holes from Bayou can do the same thing.
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Old 11-20-2006, 06:52 AM   #106
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

I got my money today. It has been "in process" since 2006-10-02, and it is now finally in my NETeller account. There is hope.
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Old 11-20-2006, 07:30 AM   #107
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

Talked to support today:
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PoPr: Will the new network be up and running today?
Thomas: It will not be running today. It might be up on Wednesday or thursday. We still do not have a 100% answer.
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Old 11-20-2006, 12:37 PM   #108
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

I can't even log into the site any more to check the status of my withdrawals.

I'm owed 7k
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Old 11-20-2006, 03:03 PM   #109
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

Will you be playing there again?

If so, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn, some swampland in Florida, and an island paradise in the south pacific. Great prices on all.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:15 PM   #110
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

I wouldn't play there again if someone put a gun to my head, a baby alligator 1 inch from my balls, all the while dangling from a high rise building holding my newborn.
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Old 11-21-2006, 09:55 AM   #111
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

yep. by far the worst site i have ever dealt with. i wish i looked at this thread b4 i even deposited. was supposed to be getting rakeback from there too through take out rake.com.

owed about 2k in rakeback (which ive written off) and 7k from pokes (thank god i didnt keep any more than enough to play in there) hopefully i will get my $$ back sometime in the next few weeks.

if anyone is looking for alternatives, i suggest signing up with eurobet and raketherake. eurobet are a v large reputable company owned by coral bookmakers and rakeback has been swift so far.

i jsut wish id looged on a couple of weeks ago and dumped it to a friend on a different skin to cash out from them
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Old 11-21-2006, 01:27 PM   #112
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

FWIW: Many of my players have emailed me since the 20th saying they got longwithstanding cashouts paid as well as all RB payments. Adam is on our side... FB is our enemy.

I do NOT plan on representing this new FB network. They view a contract as a way to bait someone in... with no intention of living up to said contract.
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:49 PM   #113
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

Saying that futurebet is the problem is ridiculous. Don't listen to what Pokes poker tells you. I've played plenty at Full Contact poker over the past month and they use futurebet. I received cashouts from them in less than 24 hours. Pokes is clearly broke and when they do have some money they pay people and whent they don't...well you know what happens. I'm sick of everyone making excuses for these scumbags. Doesn't everyone realize you can't even log in to Pokes anymore? Are situation is terrible and IMO if we get paid it's an absolute miracle.
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:07 PM   #114
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

leather- FB has been withholding money from pokes, not from the players. Pokes pays out directly to its players, but the money had been transfered through futurebet from Ongame and was being held.



still waiting in 7k +3k in RB from pokes.
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:23 PM   #115
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

So why would futurebet decide to hold up pokes' poker's money and not a site like Full Contact poker?
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Old 11-21-2006, 06:32 PM   #116
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

futurebet processed the payments for FCP, and almost all the others.

Due to what happened in the past with cashouts from futurebet, pokes decided to handle the payouts themselves, rather than rely on futurebet. However, futurebet acted as a middleman between Ongame and pokes. pokes had been scheduled to recieve several large payments, that futurebet had recieved from Ongame for them.

basically futurebet probably took money due to be paid to pokes players(from pokes directly) and payed it out elsewhere to cover up their own shortfalls.
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Old 11-22-2006, 06:03 PM   #117
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

forget about future bet etc. 'my 'contract' is with pokes and they are total scum. not even a reply to an email. and 7k still 'pending' will i ever see it again

anyone got paid by them recenly after having a long standing 'pending' cashout
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Old 11-22-2006, 07:03 PM   #118
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anyone got paid by them recenly after having a long standing 'pending' cashout
Read like 12 posts up
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:42 PM   #119
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

The truely amazing thing to me is the treatment that everyone has received from Pokes poker. If I owed people thousands of dollars I would be apologizing daily to them and bending over backwards to try and do anything I could to make them feel better. Instead the ***holes from pokes poker actually sent out an email telling you NOT to bug them about cashouts! I've never known anyone in my life that would have the audacity to make a statement like that. To call the people from pokes poker "scumbags" doesn't even begin to do them justice. They are criminals and I really hope they somehow pay the price for what they've done somday.

If somehow this really is the fault of futurebet (highly unlikely) then the people from pokes are still scumbags IMO for the way they treat people. F U POKES POKER.
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Old 11-23-2006, 03:24 AM   #120
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

Has anyone had any of these sorts of problems with Full Contact Poker? I tried to withdraw the balance of my account several days ago (~$13k) and have not received payment. After talking to (futurebet) support, they told me all this stuff about the network transition and whatever and I was just wondering whether the problem lies with futurebet itself and all other skins using them will suffer the same problems? Pokes poker sounds like a pretty awful operation and i always thought FCP was quite professional, but after reading all this am now worried that it's futurebet's fault and thus I'm going to suffer the same problems too.
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Old 11-23-2006, 04:32 AM   #121
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

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Has anyone had any of these sorts of problems with Full Contact Poker?
I am having trouble with both FCP and Pokes.

On Oct 13 I requested a mid-5-figures cashout from FCP. They sent me a note saying it was going to take a while. On 10/19 I received 30% of it in NETeller. On 10/22 I received another 23%. On 10/26 I received another 12%. As of today (11/23), 40 days after the initial request, the remaining 35% is still nowhere to be seen.

On the same day, 10/13, I requested a similar sized cashout from Pokes. I've received none of it after 40 days.

I think it's likely that neither site has seen any of this money from FutureBet, who has simply stolen it while it was in transit from OnGame. But FCP is bigger and is better able to cover when their processor walks off with a few million and stops taking their calls.

-pyg
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Old 11-23-2006, 01:57 PM   #122
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

it definitely looks like futurebet is the core problem for anyone who knows this companies history. a simple search through any review company like casino meisters or pokerroomreview will give you some examples of futurebet's past. from carnaval to bayou to this, the problems with them have not stopped. the only thing in common in all these cases, among tens of others, is futurebet.

in pokes' case, speculation seems like futurebet used their money to advance the new network their launching digital gaming network or something. i hope everyone gets paid but i also hope that network and futurebet fail to the ground. good luck.
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Old 11-27-2006, 05:11 PM   #123
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

I did what was described in this thread. I emailed that guy from ongame and the email address from Reno.net in the same mail, describing my situation. That was friday and I just got the money (it's now monday).

Apparently Reno.net isn't the same as Pokes Poker, but the problem was exactly the same as described here. Also futurebet, etc.
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Old 11-27-2006, 11:18 PM   #124
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Re: Beware of OnGame\'s Futurebet sites (e.g. pokes poker)

Got my last cashout from pokes.

Anyone still waiting - its worth emailing them.

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Old 11-28-2006, 12:40 PM   #125
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I've sent several emails over the last month, but still waiting on 7k.
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