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Old 11-10-2017, 11:41 AM   #76
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Old 11-10-2017, 05:16 PM   #77
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i always drink coffee before i play, caffeine is good!
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Old 11-11-2017, 05:57 AM   #78
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thanks for all the suggestions

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You take took Gabapentin to play poker! Can I ask why? I'm prescribed this drug take every day and hate it in even small doses, IMO It lowers your IQ by about 20 to 30 points ****s with your memory and just makes you feel like ****.

Have taken Ativan before great for anxiety and sleep but again can't imagine playing poker on it, Its also worth mentioning how addictive Benzo's are you could fall down a hole that will take you years to climb out of taking them

Not Judging but I think if you need to take drugs to play poker you then poker is really not good for you.

I assume you are talking about playing live?
I was told gabapentin was similar to pregabalin and though pregabalin did reduce my anxiety, gabapentin made no noticeable difference for me.

And I don't necessarily 'need' to take drugs but I play full time and drugs help with consistency. Also I really do have adhd and fwiw I don't even like taking my ritalin, I only take it for poker
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Old 11-11-2017, 06:06 AM   #79
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Nicotine
yea this definitely helped with my anxiety but it got out of hand after I began to smoke while grinding so I quit but in terms of anxiety reduction I give it +1
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Old 11-11-2017, 06:09 AM   #80
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in all honesty though OP, just be reasonable and think about what is pry best when it comes to drugs...none. I am quite certain the world's best poker players are not looking for which drug to turn to when it comes WSOP time or any other time a long grind is approaching. proper nutrition + proper sleep + proper physical activity is the winning combination for....wait for it.....
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quite a few top pros take drugs for poker actually, even nowadays
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Old 11-11-2017, 08:39 AM   #81
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thanks for all the suggestions



I was told gabapentin was similar to pregabalin and though pregabalin did reduce my anxiety, gabapentin made no noticeable difference for me.

And I don't necessarily 'need' to take drugs but I play full time and drugs help with consistency. Also I really do have adhd and fwiw I don't even like taking my ritalin, I only take it for poker
I have took Pregabalin too and it knocked me out my socks I literally couldn't speak and was stumbling about and almost choked on my food but it is great for pain. Maybe I have a stronger reaction to these drugs than the average person because I was on 300mg a day of Pregab and take 600mg a day of Gabapentin which ain't much and I still don't like the side effects.

Yea If you have a prescription for your drugs I think that's fine I'm not familiar with ADHD but can imagine staying focused must be a little hard with your inability to concentrate. What does it feel like to take these Ritalin/adderall drugs?
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Old 11-11-2017, 10:10 AM   #82
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I have took Pregabalin too and it knocked me out my socks I literally couldn't speak and was stumbling about and almost choked on my food but it is great for pain. Maybe I have a stronger reaction to these drugs than the average person because I was on 300mg a day of Pregab and take 600mg a day of Gabapentin which ain't much and I still don't like the side effects.

Yea If you have a prescription for your drugs I think that's fine I'm not familiar with ADHD but can imagine staying focused must be a little hard with your inability to concentrate. What does it feel like to take these Ritalin/adderall drugs?
yea pregabalin can do that to you.

And actually having pretty bad adhd, when I take my ritalin (methylphenidate) as prescribed its not a huge difference but it does make me noticeably more productive, but a bit not like myself.

In excess it makes me focus on particular tasks for extra long periods of time (pretty much as long as I want given I keep redosing) along with giving me a false sense of creativity, and also some initial mild euphoria.

These effects are similar to what I hear described by most people who take ritalin or adderal (which is actually an amphetamine).

The negatives while on it is that I completely lose my appetite as well as it gives me this anxious 'racy' feeling that makes me a bit jumpy. During the comedown its harder to sleep, possibly accompanied by headaches and you might feel burnt out the next day. I no longer smoke but when I used to I'd constantly be wanting to smoke as well.

Heres a vid where ohheycindy and joey talk about using ritalin/adderall for poker around 48 minutes

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Old 11-11-2017, 11:18 AM   #83
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To paraphrase a greater man than I:
"Hey, hey, hey, smoke weed erry game."
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:11 AM   #84
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Old 11-12-2017, 12:46 PM   #85
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Always play way above your roll, adrenaline won't let u get sleepy.
love this quote,

also kids don't mix modafinal with alchohol and vals, it's a dangerous combo

Last edited by 26sk8er; 11-12-2017 at 12:48 PM. Reason: modafinal did put me in beast mode but made me anxious as **** when taken alone do not recommend
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Old 11-12-2017, 03:23 PM   #86
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Old 11-12-2017, 03:52 PM   #87
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If you play under the influence of anything it will negatively impact your game.

If your feeling nervous just have a drink to loosen up.
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Old 11-12-2017, 07:26 PM   #88
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For live poker, large amounts of steroids to intimidate your opposition.
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Old 11-12-2017, 10:29 PM   #89
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A medium dose of psilocybin.
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:18 AM   #90
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Not really a drug but I find this supplement great for sustained energy...

https://www.svncanada.com/product/24...gy-30-servings
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Old 11-13-2017, 02:22 AM   #91
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If you play under the influence of anything it will negatively impact your game.

If your feeling nervous just have a drink to loosen up.
Unless you've tried every drug while playing poker then your words mean nothing.
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Old 11-13-2017, 05:02 PM   #92
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:56 PM   #93
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Old 11-15-2017, 03:57 AM   #94
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Old 11-16-2017, 06:34 AM   #95
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Benzodiazapines if you SUFFER from axiety from day to day, can of cheap energy drink,, to counter act / balance the effects of the benzo's.

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Walks in nature for sure, and magic mushrooms
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Old 11-16-2017, 11:29 PM   #96
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Ive tried a lot of stuff and gave up on them. a few things that are no brainers

sleep
b12
a ton of fish oil (i never noticed anything until i took a lot)
Vitamin D if you live north is a must in the winter

Then anything that increases blood flow (oxygen to the brain) without messing with your neurotransmitters is guaranteed to help without hurting or building tolerance:

- vinpocetine
- gingko
- niacin
- citrulline / arginine

Then there are a bunch of nootropics like racetams that will alter your neurotransmitter function. be warned they will change your personality, possibly for the worse, and they will change how you play so that you may play worse. I never touch them anymore. noopept, aniracetam, piracetam, etc etc

Then there are the ones that are rx strength like modafinil, ritalin (just got some lol mexico), amphetamines (no idea). these are about as good as you will get for focus. its apparently a good idea to take memantine if you take adderal / ritalin.

After that there are a bunch of things that can improve mood sustainably and give neurotransmitter support. I suspect a lot of antidepressants are effective because they improve nerotransmitter function and they make someone more content by making them more effective. Tianeptine can be bought and is non presciption in US/Canada.

Microdosing you can google it appears that is effective on mood / creativity but not as effective on focus as the rx drugs.

and for sleep / other benefits
- uridine will make you sleep so deep its hard to wake up, gives some focus, and improves sleep quality. i only use occasionally
- glycine will help you get to sleep fast...is a brain stimulant and a central nervous system depressant so you feel relaxed and alert but for me I think it cycles my thoughts. I never use it and stay away from anything that enhances nmda receptor function (all racetams, noopept) due to cycling thoughts and random thoughts. but glycine is harmless doubt most would notice that

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Old 11-17-2017, 12:08 AM   #97
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If you play under the influence of anything it will negatively impact your game.

If your feeling nervous just have a drink to loosen up.
so dont play under the influence of anything because it hurts your game but if you need to, play under the influence of something, because it will help.
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Old 11-17-2017, 12:24 AM   #98
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Not really a drug but I find this supplement great for sustained energy...

https://www.svncanada.com/product/24...gy-30-servings
most of this will work. yes/

caffiene is kinda **** on its own. it speeds up thoughts without making any more sense. so usually energy drinks have taurine or green tea / theanine to slow down nmda receptors.

beta alinine increases oxygen similar to niacin. I doubt it makes any difference drinking it once...but for a distance runner its supposed to help when loaded up. will lower blood pressure

tyrosine turns into dopamine...it will give energy but is not sustainable.

arginine and citrulline are for blood flow also. they dont mess with neurotranmitters. safe to take everyday and will lower blood pressure.

l-glutamine helps with muscle recovery / soreness (a lot)...not sure it has any real benefits for energy or focus but its cheap enough to throw in at those does.

so yes that mix will improve your day I think the tyrosine is the only bad thing in there for me....but youd have to take it for a long time before the nasty head of tyrosine pops up
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Old 11-17-2017, 12:38 AM   #99
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thanks for all the suggestions



I was told gabapentin was similar to pregabalin and though pregabalin did reduce my anxiety, gabapentin made no noticeable difference for me.

And I don't necessarily 'need' to take drugs but I play full time and drugs help with consistency. Also I really do have adhd and fwiw I don't even like taking my ritalin, I only take it for poker
Meditation will help with both of those. Keep on going back to your little for profit doctor tho that make money off of you downing them pills.


Really it's quite sad that people have been brainwashed into taking drugs for things that can be dealt with thru a little training. It's rather pathetic how our culture throws pills at everything. Go on being a ****ing pillhead if you wanna tho you dumb ****.
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Old 11-17-2017, 01:12 AM   #100
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pregbalin and gabapentin are likely terrible....as is anything that messes with gaba (phenibut, alcohol). they slow down mental function just like a benzo and are a ***** to come off, just like benzo, but worse. picamilon might be a good option it is ok for anxiety and gives some energy from niacin increasing brain bloodflow. it works though i dont use it anymore.

if anxiety is really a problem here is my list:
- memantine - probably by all reports. havent tried.
- tianeptine - it is prescribed for that in other countries, helps mental function
- picamilon- helps mental function, helps anxiety
- noopept - decreases anxiety but changes personality in my opinion
- inositol - works for anxiety doesnt help mental function imo.
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