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Old 11-04-2017, 12:27 PM   #26
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Old 11-04-2017, 12:30 PM   #27
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Caffeine with weed (where legal) and a prayer
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Old 11-04-2017, 01:53 PM   #28
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Consistent sleep
30 minutes of exercise
Cold showers
A short pre-game routine
A diet that doesn't grog you out


Stick to it for 2 weeks.

Even coffee might not be worth it if it crashes you for the second half of the day. I go back and forth.

No nootropic or other solution comes close from my experience, as nitty as it sounds. Other benefits quickly manifest.

Treat yourself to some herbal remedies after your day's tasks are complete.
Find a cute girl that doesn't take all of your profits.

Some of these are harder than others.

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Old 11-04-2017, 02:15 PM   #29
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A benzo like ativan/Lorazepam is not a good choice unless you have some sort of mental disorder. You will build tolerance whilst not growing your natural defense mechanisms. And in the long run you are doomed.

As a one off for the main event final table it would be a different question.


Alot of drugs effects can already be replicated with your own mind.
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Old 11-04-2017, 02:41 PM   #30
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A hunter/gatherer type of diet and kratom.
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Old 11-04-2017, 02:57 PM   #31
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Old 11-04-2017, 03:07 PM   #32
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I smoke two joints in the morning, I smoke two joints at night. I smoke two joints in the afternoon, it makes me feel alright.

Those of you who said kratom - what strain? I like Bali at night sometimes, but it tends to be too sedating to grind much.
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Old 11-04-2017, 04:07 PM   #33
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Old 11-04-2017, 04:16 PM   #34
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Old 11-04-2017, 04:24 PM   #35
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op, your Ritalin is meth.

I would get some good opiates and smoke weed. Very small amounts of benzos, break them in four. these are all legal, in fact I take them every day.

I would play some days without any music or tv shows, just to see how it goes without distractions.
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Old 11-04-2017, 04:31 PM   #36
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Re: Best drug/drugs to use for grinding? (legally)

OP, this subject has come up a few times before... if it helps, some decent discussion here:

Drugs in Poker: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...poker-1343688/

ADD/ADHD as a Disability and Performance Enhancing Drugs: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-drugs-163902/

Brandon Adams in 60minutes admits to using Adderall: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...derall-769410/

Poker On Ritalin: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ritalin-363664
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Old 11-04-2017, 05:06 PM   #37
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I smoke two joints in the morning, I smoke two joints at night. I smoke two joints in the afternoon, it makes me feel alright.

Those of you who said kratom - what strain? I like Bali at night sometimes, but it tends to be too sedating to grind much.
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Old 11-04-2017, 05:09 PM   #38
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op, your Ritalin is meth.

I would get some good opiates and smoke weed. Very small amounts of benzos, break them in four. these are all legal, in fact I take them every day.

I would play some days without any music or tv shows, just to see how it goes without distractions.
Agree that benzos are pretty good, especially if you have any anxiety, worry, results-orientated thinking to overcome. Pretty slippery slope though, so proceed with caution.

I've tried grinding anywhere between taking large amounts of speed and a standard Ritalin or whatever dose and found that while I had heightened concentration, it was really fleeting. In the end, I was more prone to distraction.

Ultimately nothing and a good sleep routine is likely best. I just use caffeine at the moment, and while I have to force myself to re-focus many times a session, at least I know my head is clear.

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Old 11-04-2017, 05:31 PM   #39
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I take remeron (mirtazapine) for depression/anxiety and it definitely helps for grinding. Mirtazapine has an analgesic/anxiolytic effect and it makes me much more even-keeled with regards to dealing with beats/tilt. I've taken benzos before but found them less helpful and obviously they are addicting and potentially very problematic over the long-term.

The drawback of mirtazapine is it's incredibly sedating and I'm affected by the drug for about 12-14 hours (usually sleeping ~10 of them). Also at times it makes me apathetic to a degree that is disconcerting. That can be good for poker in a sense, but not for life.
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Old 11-04-2017, 05:53 PM   #40
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Old 11-04-2017, 08:24 PM   #41
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>10 years ago, I was killing time at the Grosvenor Casino in Cardiff Bay. Avids may remember that Staples hosted something there in the Summer. This is also the red light area of the city.

The game was a £35 shootout with 3 tables. I won mine first and then sloped off to the bog for some ketamine. This was either legal or less illegal at the time. To cut a long story short, I did too much and spent the next hour unconcious - steadfast in the belief that I was dead.

I emerged from the K-hole and staggered towards the final table, coolering my 2 opponents immediately.

Sadly the joke was soon on me. They used to give a shiny gold chip/card protector to tournament winners and they had obviously run out for the first time ever when I won. I then had to navigate my way out of the cesspit that is Cardiff Bay (walking at about 0.5mph)

Unbelievably I didn't get robbed, receded back to my lair and slept it off with the folding money.
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Old 11-04-2017, 11:11 PM   #42
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Consistent sleep
30 minutes of exercise
Cold showers
A short pre-game routine
A diet that doesn't grog you out


Stick to it for 2 weeks.

gl hf
Honestly this is the one thing that always pushes my results back to the good side of things when I'm in a downswing or slacking off playing live poker or whatever.

Always used to be on the mountain dew + gummy worms plan and its fine until things get tough, but during the hard times it just doesn't do it.

Hate to sound like a try hard but this really is the best advice
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Old 11-05-2017, 12:08 AM   #43
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Surprising lack of popularity of the ol' alcohol. A lot of it will certainly cloud the judgement, but a little can help with the relaxation and is safer than tranquilizers.
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:33 AM   #44
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Coffee during the day and Matcha green tea, fish oils and heavily hopped IPA at night.
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:27 AM   #45
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>10 years ago, I was killing time at the Grosvenor Casino in Cardiff Bay. Avids may remember that Staples hosted something there in the Summer. This is also the red light area of the city.

The game was a £35 shootout with 3 tables. I won mine first and then sloped off to the bog for some ketamine. This was either legal or less illegal at the time. To cut a long story short, I did too much and spent the next hour unconcious - steadfast in the belief that I was dead.

I emerged from the K-hole and staggered towards the final table, coolering my 2 opponents immediately.

Sadly the joke was soon on me. They used to give a shiny gold chip/card protector to tournament winners and they had obviously run out for the first time ever when I won. I then had to navigate my way out of the cesspit that is Cardiff Bay (walking at about 0.5mph)

Unbelievably I didn't get robbed, receded back to my lair and slept it off with the folding money.

haha, nice writing. Start a PG&C, I'll follow
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Old 11-05-2017, 12:04 PM   #46
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Smack, laced with fentanyl usually does the trick to grinding a long day at the tables.
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:20 PM   #47
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Good Sex with someone you find extremely attractive or light masturbation while grinding (no climax) to keep a steady flow of dopamine (assuming you are an online player)
Works for live poker as well, over sized hoody required.
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Old 11-06-2017, 01:46 AM   #48
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Old 11-06-2017, 08:21 PM   #49
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Spice Melange. You actually can see future hands and what's coming on the flop, turn and river. I am totally serious. But it is expensive and turns your eyes bright blue. Oh and yeah you die if you try to quit. Good luck.
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Old 11-06-2017, 09:33 PM   #50
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