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Old 11-04-2017, 05:27 AM   #1
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Best drug/drugs to use for grinding? (legally)

so I currently take ritalin and with that some ativan to reduce the anxiety-like affects of the ritalin. Ive tried modafinil, as well as gabapentin but neither were my cup of tea. Are there any 'secret' drugs or combo of drus that aren't well known of? Somthing that keeps you focusedd and alert without giving you that anxious ''racy' feeling
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Old 11-04-2017, 05:41 AM   #2
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Old 11-04-2017, 05:57 AM   #3
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Old 11-04-2017, 06:08 AM   #4
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Old 11-04-2017, 06:36 AM   #5
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Old 11-04-2017, 06:42 AM   #6
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Old 11-04-2017, 06:50 AM   #7
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Faith from Californication Nice one

Most used drugs in the world should be caffeine, nicotine and alcohol btw, just coz they are legal. I like cofffee and black/green tea. For concentration there should be some usefull drugs but i dont have the money for them. From time to time i drink before big session on Sundays shark/redd bull and the taurine is nice
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Old 11-04-2017, 08:39 AM   #8
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so I currently take ritalin and with that some ativan to reduce the anxiety-like affects of the ritalin. Ive tried modafinil, as well as gabapentin but neither were my cup of tea. Are there any 'secret' drugs or combo of drus that aren't well known of? Somthing that keeps you focusedd and alert without giving you that anxious ''racy' feeling
You take took Gabapentin to play poker! Can I ask why? I'm prescribed this drug take every day and hate it in even small doses, IMO It lowers your IQ by about 20 to 30 points ****s with your memory and just makes you feel like ****.

Have taken Ativan before great for anxiety and sleep but again can't imagine playing poker on it, Its also worth mentioning how addictive Benzo's are you could fall down a hole that will take you years to climb out of taking them

Not Judging but I think if you need to take drugs to play poker you then poker is really not good for you.

I assume you are talking about playing live?
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Old 11-04-2017, 09:30 AM   #9
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. Ive tried modafinil, as well as gabapentin but neither were my cup of tea.
Maybe you should try a cup of tea.
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Old 11-04-2017, 09:37 AM   #10
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Old 11-04-2017, 09:38 AM   #11
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Kratom , caffeine, Pre-workout mix

Secret one: Naps and 20 minute walks in nature
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Old 11-04-2017, 09:41 AM   #12
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I have a 'friend' that plays most live MTTs high on pot.

He did some experimenting over an acceptable sample size and the results delta was pretty clear.

Claims it makes him more clairvoyant and just gets a better sense of what villians are doing strat wise in each hand.

Your mileage may vary.
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:12 AM   #13
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5thp i really like and its legal
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:31 AM   #14
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Search Nootropics there is a really good FB group that discusses this loads of smart drug combinations.
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:53 AM   #15
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in all honesty though OP, just be reasonable and think about what is pry best when it comes to drugs...none. I am quite certain the world's best poker players are not looking for which drug to turn to when it comes WSOP time or any other time a long grind is approaching. proper nutrition + proper sleep + proper physical activity is the winning combination for....wait for it.....
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:53 AM   #16
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Exercise and Vitamins

No drugs

Just Confidence

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Old 11-04-2017, 11:15 AM   #17
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Good Sex with someone you find extremely attractive or light masturbation while grinding (no climax) to keep a steady flow of dopamine (assuming you are an online player)
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Old 11-04-2017, 11:16 AM   #18
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Old 11-04-2017, 11:25 AM   #19
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Old 11-04-2017, 11:30 AM   #20
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Cialis. Side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed back ache or muscle ache. Ask your doctor about Cialis and daily use and a 30 day free trial.
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Old 11-04-2017, 11:39 AM   #21
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Whim hoff breathing and slow meditative breathing while playing. If you take drugs like amphetamines you're a dumb ****. I'd equate the adrenaline you get from Wim Hoff to bee like 10 cups of coffee or the tiniest amount of coke you could possibly do.


Again if you are taking amphetamines in this century... you're dumb ****.
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Old 11-04-2017, 11:51 AM   #22
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Old 11-04-2017, 11:53 AM   #23
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Old 11-04-2017, 11:54 AM   #24
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Best drug by far to keep you alert is Provigil. Given to Sleep Apnea patients and fighter pilots to keep them alert and awake. An incredible drug with out the nonsense you get from Ritalin
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Old 11-04-2017, 12:27 PM   #25
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Re: Best drug/drugs to use for grinding? (legally)

Anything good for your brain + body when not grinding is also probably your best bet for optimal grinding. That’s going to be a combo of diet, vitamins, supplements, and yes... exercise

One strategy I have not seen widely discussed in poker is the use of aromatherapy via essential oils. Specifically, oils with high concentrations of sesquiterpenes that raise oxygen levels in the brain. Conversely, different blends of essential oils have compounds that can help counter anxiety & other issues.


Most “drugs” will provide short term benefits with more significant long term consequences. Specifically if not otherwise necessary and used predominantly for grinding

Benzo’s: Act as a tranquilizer on the brain. The amygdala is mainly responsible for anxiety, the prefrontal cortex for complex thought & planning, various parts of the brain for memory. In a perfect world benzo’s would only act on the amygdala. In reality they act on & slow down activity in your entire brain. Highly addictive (physical dependence begins to develop after ~2days of use, withdrawal symptoms are significant and lengthy). Also decreases impulse control which could be destructive in a poker setting.

Stimulants: long term use for “grinding” = overworking your brain without enough rest leading to eventual decrease in executive functioning

Most of the positive effects felt via caffeine intake by regular users are simply a response/end to symptoms of caffeine withdrawal. Short term use improves brain function/memory/alertness for a short time. Non-regular caffeine users who will experience increased mental alertness will also experience negative side effects more severely like anxiety. After it has worn off you will start to crash and need to rest or reup on caffeine. Long term compared to no caffeine intake it acts as a placebo at best. Haven’t seen any evidence that it improves functioning over an extended time period (& there have been a ton of studies attempting to prove this), I would expect the opposite to happen in a “grinding” setting. Caffeine derived from plants vs. synthetically produced caffeine will lead to better results. Here is a good article about it that relates to stimulants as a whole

https://www.trueprotein.com.au/natur...hetic-caffeine
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