Blasphemy.

You ever play 50/100 PLO or higher? The players arent as good as you think. I've watched my friend play Benyamine 200/400 PLO 3 handed and Benyamine continuously hit 4 outers on him and two times put his entire stack in drawing dead with a flush draw on a paired board. The problem is that few people who have million(++) dollar bankrolls to play that big are good at PLO. Generally when you watch that 200/400 PLO game you are watching a big game with a lot of fish.

if it's so easy, why are these 25/50 PLO players not being backed?

I have played both games and 100/200+ at fulltilt is so much harder than 25/50 at stars. Think what you want but benyamine is so much better than you can even realize. He is unbeivable good and you can't even realize it until you play with him.

Everyone respects Benyamine but I've seen him put in his whole stack overcalling a bet and raise with AKT7 on A46 boards with 2 spades with him having no spade draw and no straight draw. He ran into a set and a flush draw wrap that hand, and turned the A. On the turn he and Gus got allin, the spade wrap folded, and Gus won with the boat.

I've seen him do this often enough where I just say "my god how can you play this badly." He's put in enough money with 0-10% equity in so many hands I've watched that it's hard for me to sweat his jock. He's better than a lot of players in that game but it's usually a really soft game even with him in it.

Remember, tons of guys last year were killing cash games and tournaments, and now aren't doing so well (look at Negreanu for example). Guys run hot and cold every year so I'm not putting Benyamine on a pedestal quite yet, although he's very successful in most of the games.

As to why no one is backing top 25/50 PLO players to play that big, Im really not sure. People may look at games with Benyamine, Hansen, Matusow, Cunningham, etc. and naturally think those guys are unbeatable, when realistically PLO is one of their serious weak spots in their overall game.

on barry greenstein's site, he list benyamine best games as
Best game: Pot-limit Omaha

hehehe

Some updates again..

These are since 9/1. I also merged all Benyamine's accounts: David Benyamine, ballsrider, benyaminedavid, davidbenyamine1, freetrees, looseslots and magicpitch1.

Top 5:



Bottom 5:



FT pros:

Didn't know that Balls and looseslots was also Benyamine. Does he ever sleep?

tao those are all from omaha right?

i wish u datamined the 5/1k limit holdem. its been playing alot shorthanded.


anyway tyvm

500/1000 LHE

http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ntitledbn5.jpg

how the hell do you post a pic on this site?

u sure TLK hasnt won more? he seems to always have a 100k+. (although he prolly buys in for 50k)

yea i missed some session when i wake up they have new tables open up so it cant be complete. no looks like TLK had a bad 250k streak, then he left the site for a week or so, just came back like couple days ago i think.

ballsrider and erik1223 hu for a bit now at 2-4 calcot just sat...
Full Tilt Poker Game #984938142: Table Pantheon (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha - 21:49:53 ET - 2006/09/09
Seat 3: Erik1223 ($60,397)
Seat 6: ballsrider ($68,396)
Erik1223 posts the small blind of $200
ballsrider posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Erik1223 raises to $1,200
ballsrider calls $800
*** FLOP *** [Jh 5c 9h]
ballsrider checks
Erik1223 bets $2,400
ballsrider calls $2,400
*** TURN *** [Jh 5c 9h] [2d]
ballsrider checks
Erik1223 bets $6,400
ballsrider calls $6,400
*** RIVER *** [Jh 5c 9h 2d] [Kc]
ballsrider checks
Erik1223 bets $20,000
CALCOT sits down
ballsrider raises to $58,396, and is all in
Erik1223 calls $30,397, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $7,999 returned to ballsrider
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ballsrider shows [6h Qc Qh 8c] (a pair of Queens)
Erik1223 shows [Ah Th Qd 8d] (a straight, King high)
Erik1223 wins the pot ($120,793.50) with a straight, King high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $120,794 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Jh 5c 9h 2d Kc]
Seat 3: Erik1223 (small blind) showed [Ah Th Qd 8d] and won ($120,793.50) with a straight, King high
Seat 6: ballsrider (big blind) showed [6h Qc Qh 8c] and lost with a pair of Queens

yikes

Ouch

FullTiltPoker Game #985061515: Table Erwin (6 max) - $100/$200 - Pot Limit Omaha - 22:27:26 ET - 2006/09/09
Seat 1: Mike Matusow ($38,276)
Seat 2: ballsrider ($8,809)
Seat 3: Arbianight ($47,274.50)
Seat 4: AllenCunningham ($15,030.50)
Seat 5: howisitfeellike ($11,856)
Seat 6: triplewitch ($13,142)
AllenCunningham posts the small blind of $100
howisitfeellike is sitting out
triplewitch posts the big blind of $200
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
howisitfeellike has returned
howisitfeellike stands up
Mike Matusow raises to $450
ballsrider raises to $1,650
Arbianight folds
AllenCunningham folds
triplewitch folds
Mike Matusow calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [3s Td 8d]
Mike Matusow checks
tommyboy83 adds $5,000
ballsrider bets $3,600
Mike Matusow raises to $14,400
ballsrider calls $3,559, and is all in
Mike Matusow shows [5d 8s 4s 7d]
ballsrider shows [6d Kd Ks Qs]
Uncalled bet of $7,241 returned to Mike Matusow
*** TURN *** [3s Td 8d] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [3s Td 8d 7c] [5s]
Mike Matusow shows two pair, Eights and Sevens
ballsrider shows a pair of Kings
Mike Matusow wins the pot ($17,916) with two pair, Eights and Sevens
Nathematics (Observer): yes mikey !
Lane11 (Observer): ---------------->
ballsrider is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17,918 | Rake $2
Board: [3s Td 8d 7c 5s]
Seat 1: Mike Matusow showed [5d 8s 4s 7d] and won ($17,916) with two pair, Eights and Sevens
Seat 2: ballsrider showed [6d Kd Ks Qs] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: Arbianight (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: AllenCunningham (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: howisitfeellike is sitting out
Seat 6: triplewitch (big blind) folded before the Flop

Mike Matusow: it not money anyways
Mike Matusow: its computer numbers

omfg classic

TLK must have won more than that these past few days. Ive seen him with over 200k from 50k more than once. Anyone else got these numbers?

How much was Benyamine originally down?

He was dominating a few days ago when he had a mil on 3 tables. See HH's which I posted on the other pages.

Full Tilt Poker Game #986055233: Table Pantheon (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha - 4:17:04 ET - 2006/09/10
Seat 1: Luigi66369 ($204,427)
Seat 3: ballsrider ($59,005.50)
Seat 4: Luck123 ($7,400)
Seat 5: Miss Lulu ($21,395)
Seat 6: cmynuts ($21,198)
ballsrider posts the small blind of $200
Luck123 posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Miss Lulu raises to $1,200
cmynuts folds
Luigi66369 calls $1,200
ballsrider folds
Luck123 calls $800
*** FLOP *** [7h 3d 9c]
Luck123 checks
Miss Lulu checks
Luigi66369 bets $3,200
Luck123 folds
Miss Lulu raises to $13,400
Luigi66369 raises to $44,000
Miss Lulu calls $6,795, and is all in
Luigi66369 shows [6d 8h 9s 4h]
Miss Lulu shows [Kd Ad Qs 3s]
Uncalled bet of $23,805 returned to Luigi66369
*** TURN *** [7h 3d 9c] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [7h 3d 9c 6s] [8d]
Luigi66369 shows two pair, Nines and Eights
Miss Lulu shows a pair of Threes
Luigi66369 wins the pot ($44,188) with two pair, Nines and Eights
Miss Lulu is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $44,190 | Rake $2
Board: [7h 3d 9c 6s 8d]
Seat 1: Luigi66369 (button) showed [6d 8h 9s 4h] and won ($44,188) with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 3: ballsrider (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Luck123 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Miss Lulu showed [Kd Ad Qs 3s] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 6: cmynuts didn't bet (folded)

Full Tilt Poker Game #986066323: Table Eginton (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha - 4:23:56 ET - 2006/09/10
Seat 3: ballsrider ($164,165.50)
Seat 6: Luigi66369 ($156,035)
ballsrider posts the small blind of $200
Luigi66369 posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
ballsrider raises to $1,200
Luigi66369 calls $800
*** FLOP *** [Kc 4d Qc]
Luigi66369 checks
ballsrider checks
*** TURN *** [Kc 4d Qc] [7d]
Luigi66369 bets $2,400
ballsrider calls $2,400
*** RIVER *** [Kc 4d Qc 7d] [Kh]
Luigi66369 bets $6,400
ballsrider calls $6,400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Luigi66369 shows [Ts Td 4h 4c] (a full house, Fours full of Kings)
ballsrider mucks
Luigi66369 wins the pot ($19,999.50) with a full house, Fours full of Kings
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $20,000 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Kc 4d Qc 7d Kh]
Seat 3: ballsrider (small blind) mucked
Seat 6: Luigi66369 (big blind) collected ($19,999.50)



Full Tilt Poker Game #986066571: Table Pantheon (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha - 4:24:05 ET - 2006/09/10
Seat 1: Luigi66369 ($220,918)
Seat 3: ballsrider ($70,299.50)
Seat 4: Luck123 ($5,998)
Seat 5: Miss Lulu ($16,000)
Seat 6: cmynuts ($19,198)
cmynuts posts the small blind of $200
Luigi66369 posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
ballsrider raises to $900
Luck123 folds
Miss Lulu raises to $1,400
cmynuts folds
Luigi66369 folds
ballsrider calls $500
*** FLOP *** [4h 7h 6d]
ballsrider has 15 seconds left to act
ballsrider bets $2,800
Miss Lulu raises to $11,800
ballsrider raises to $38,800
Miss Lulu calls $2,800, and is all in
ballsrider shows [8d 6h 5c Ac]
Miss Lulu shows [7s 8s 3d 6s]
Uncalled bet of $24,200 returned to ballsrider
*** TURN *** [4h 7h 6d] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [4h 7h 6d Jc] [8c]
ballsrider shows a straight, Eight high
Miss Lulu shows two pair, Eights and Sevens
ballsrider wins the pot ($32,598) with a straight, Eight high
Miss Lulu adds $16,000
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $32,600 | Rake $2
Board: [4h 7h 6d Jc 8c]
Seat 1: Luigi66369 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: ballsrider showed [8d 6h 5c Ac] and won ($32,598) with a straight, Eight high
Seat 4: Luck123 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Miss Lulu (button) showed [7s 8s 3d 6s] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sevens
Seat 6: cmynuts (small blind) folded before the Flop

Full Tilt Poker Game #986102713: Table Pantheon (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha - 4:48:52 ET - 2006/09/10
Seat 1: baronzeus ($7,400)
Seat 2: steaming ($8,400)
Seat 3: ballsrider ($80,786.50)
Seat 4: Luck123 ($3,500)
Seat 5: Miss Lulu ($47,272)
Seat 6: cmynuts ($48,290)
ballsrider posts the small blind of $200
Luck123 posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Miss Lulu folds
cmynuts folds
baronzeus raises to $1,400
steaming folds
ballsrider calls $1,200
Luck123 folds
*** FLOP *** [7h 3h 9h]
ballsrider checks
baronzeus bets $1,600
ballsrider calls $1,600
*** TURN *** [7h 3h 9h] [9c]
ballsrider bets $4,400
baronzeus calls $4,400, and is all in
ballsrider shows [6h 8h Kc 9d]
baronzeus shows [9s 5s 4c Ac]
*** RIVER *** [7h 3h 9h 9c] [Tc]
ballsrider shows a flush, Nine high
baronzeus shows three of a kind, Nines
ballsrider wins the pot ($15,197) with a flush, Nine high
baronzeus is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15,200 | Rake $3
Board: [7h 3h 9h 9c Tc]
Seat 1: baronzeus showed [9s 5s 4c Ac] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 2: steaming (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: ballsrider (small blind) showed [6h 8h Kc 9d] and won ($15,197) with a flush, Nine high
Seat 4: Luck123 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Miss Lulu didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: cmynuts didn't bet (folded)

Are the big NL Holdem games being datamined?

Ivey also playing, and losing...


Full Tilt Poker Game #999927084: Table Pantheon (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha - 11:49:16 ET - 2006/09/14
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($15,200)
Seat 3: Ram Vaswani ($120,768.50)
Seat 6: ballsrider ($45,983)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $200
Ram Vaswani posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
ballsrider raises to $800
Phil Ivey raises to $2,800
Ram Vaswani folds
ballsrider calls $2,000
*** FLOP *** [4h Qs 3c]
Phil Ivey bets $6,000
ballsrider calls $6,000
*** TURN *** [4h Qs 3c] [9s]
Phil Ivey bets $6,400, and is all in
ballsrider calls $6,400
Phil Ivey shows [Qh Ad Kc Ac]
ballsrider shows [Tc 3h 9h Jh]
*** RIVER *** [4h Qs 3c 9s] [Td]
Phil Ivey shows a pair of Aces
ballsrider shows two pair, Tens and Nines
ballsrider wins the pot ($30,799) with two pair, Tens and Nines
Phil Ivey is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $30,800 | Rake $1
Board: [4h Qs 3c 9s Td]
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (small blind) showed [Qh Ad Kc Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: Ram Vaswani (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: ballsrider (button) showed [Tc 3h 9h Jh] and won ($30,799) with two pair, Tens and Nines