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Ben Tollerene (ben86) talks about multi accounting on high stakes PLO Ben Tollerene (ben86) talks about multi accounting on high stakes PLO

04-28-2013 , 05:32 PM
http://quadjacks.com/tobis-table-tal...n86-tollerene/

Interesting that he thinks harrington25 is/was multi accounting.
is there anything public on that? never really heard about that issue.
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04-28-2013 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cmondude
never really heard about that issue.
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04-28-2013 , 05:43 PM
mandatory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtFQO2qj6eQ

anyone this awkward has to be multiaccounting.
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04-28-2013 , 05:50 PM
“He is so brilliant and such an intelligent guy. He makes extreme adjustments when he finds something. He will see things that I’m doing and he will mimic it when he likes it. So sometimes he’s applying my own strategy on me.”

Just like galfond. remind isildur how much he really respects his gamble... I mean game...
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04-28-2013 , 05:53 PM
There have been a lot of accusations about Harrington multiaccounts in the High Stakes thread and the HSPLO forum.

Only accounts I can immediately remember being linked to him are longerpig (http://www.highstakesdb.com/profiles...longerpig.aspx) and Gozoboro, although a 2+2 account under the name Gozoboro denied the allegations, quoting a reputable history on this forum
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04-28-2013 , 07:50 PM
great interview

i might be completely misinterpreting the last question. but how is it 5 million to quit poker lifetime? isn't he averaging like 2.5m+ an year lol? tom dwan, and maybe its cuz he's delusional, said he'd want 100m...
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04-28-2013 , 07:51 PM
ya i was under the impression it was well known that he is a huge multi-accounter
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04-28-2013 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bazaro
great interview

i might be completely misinterpreting the last question. but how is it 5 million to quit poker lifetime? isn't he averaging like 2.5m+ an year lol? tom dwan, and maybe its cuz he's delusional, said he'd want 100m...
He obviously doesn't have 100% of his action but when your swinging a million every other day It'd be hard to be rolled for those swings.
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04-28-2013 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bazaro
great interview
+1
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04-28-2013 , 08:57 PM
Better post on harrington MAing

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Originally Posted by Daut44
was given the following image by skjervoy. Im posting it instead of him because he felt like he would be whining by posting it. But i think its enough to be considered strong evidence:



The first 3 accounts listed are suspected bleznick accounts. The last account listed is barcode just as a frame of reference to what a different regular's stats looks like. the stats on the first 3 accounts are ridiculously similar over those sample sizes. the 3bet stat alone is enough to show its the same person cause nobody else plays like that, but combined with everything else its pretty damning.

this is the closest thing we have to "evidence". everything else is a story, a rumor, stuff that is very likely to be true but we have no way to prove any of it. like me saying noobmare sat with my buddy in HU 2-7 (who wont play harrington), calls a raise and draws 5 and says "oh i thought this was a different game?" then starts playing like a beast. or some random account coming in and telling my friend "wow im sitting with phil galfond!" then 3betting 40% of hands HU. or gozoboro sits at the same table with longerpig, longerpig sits out waits a few minutes then logs off to make a smooth transition between them to make it seem like they are different people.

i hate being a whistleblower, and i really cant say i have a problem with someone playing on stars from the states. if someone has found a way to beat the ****ty system that the us government has imposed on us i would never snitch on them. what i do have a problem with is when someone has 9+ accounts on 2 sites and is constantly rotating through them, sitting on the same table with them and chatting like a fish to try to throw off the scent and playing people who would not sit HU with harrington if they had any clue who it is. i have friends in PLO and 2-7 that are being screwed by him coming up with these new accounts from different countries all the time. its at the point where my friends feel they cannot play new accounts that may be fish because they suspect it might be/probably is harrington.

i no longer play high stakes and dont have incentive other than watching my friends not get screwed to post this stuff. and ive always been kinda friendly with jared when i saw him so i didnt want to come out and blast him, but its gone too far. guy is too good of a player to get an advantage this big. **** he might be the best PLO player in the world. and you guys who play high stakes do nothing about it. dont get it

whoever has played HU against those 3 accounts should get together, pool all the hands you guys have with them and try to get a database of 5k+ hands on each guy to try and work the stat argument more. it would be helpful if stars would do it but they clearly feel their hands are tied and wont do more.
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04-28-2013 , 08:59 PM
very good interview. Tought it was rumoured that harrington was a ma'er.
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04-28-2013 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SmokeyJ
Better post on harrington MAing
def seems like MA beyond a reasonable DAUT
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04-28-2013 , 09:57 PM
anyone have a link to where harrington asks ivey/PA if they like cap?
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04-28-2013 , 10:02 PM
Wow I thought a man of "Action" Dan Harrington's stature would know better

Interesting that he plays so much HS PLO, I thought live NL tourneys and cash were more his cup of tea

Im sad to hear this as his Harrington on Holdem book series really helped me with my game and I respected him a lot
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04-28-2013 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AllBlackDan
Wow I thought a man of "Action" Dan Harrington's stature would know better

Interesting that he plays so much HS PLO, I thought live NL tourneys and cash were more his cup of tea

Im sad to hear this as his Harrington on Holdem book series really helped me with my game and I respected him a lot
LOL just thinking of dan harrington multi accounting nosebleed plo.
Spoiler:
not him bro
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04-28-2013 , 10:36 PM
^Hilarious.

I was shocked when Ben said he'd leave the game for 5 mirrion dollas. Does that seem small to any of you considering how much he's won over the past couple of years? I know he probably doesn't have all his action all the time at 500/1k, but I don't know, 5 mil just seemed a little low to me. This coming from the guy who won like 4 cheeseburgers playing HUSNGs today. I'd quit poker for like $400 and a happy meal.
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04-28-2013 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by WhatsA3bet
He obviously doesn't have 100% of his action but when your swinging a million every other day It'd be hard to be rolled for those swings.
sometimes things that are obvious are not obvious
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04-29-2013 , 01:00 AM
It takes a lot of time and effort to win the money he does. Guys that consistently win as much as Ben do might also be able to make millions doing other things in life.

I don't know Ben, but 2-3 years of peak earnings to quit might be a good deal. It's not like anyone made him that offer either, so maybe he did lowball, wouldn't be surprised if his # was good though.
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04-29-2013 , 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AllBlackDan
Wow I thought a man of "Action" Dan Harrington's stature would know better

Interesting that he plays so much HS PLO, I thought live NL tourneys and cash were more his cup of tea

Im sad to hear this as his Harrington on Holdem book series really helped me with my game and I respected him a lot
lol
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04-29-2013 , 08:08 AM
I really do think people should refer to the guy as Jared Bleznick instead of harrington (that's only one of his accounts anyway). Obviously confuses some people who don't have all the info.
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04-29-2013 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by aejones
sometimes things that are obvious are not obvious
That's some like 7th level thinking..
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04-29-2013 , 10:17 AM
I think Ben played in the Wednesday 5-10-25 NL/PLO and 25/50 PLO that Jarvis organizes @ Edgewater...could be wrong but the pic looks very similar.
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04-29-2013 , 10:19 AM
Ben needs more respect. Dude is a beast.
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04-29-2013 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MrSawyer

I was shocked when Ben said he'd leave the game for 5 mirrion dollas. Does that seem small to any of you considering how much he's won over the past couple of years?
yeah this made no sense at all he is clearly capable of making much more and yes losing also but 5 million is like wtf was expecting him to say something like 100 million.
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