I thought you had some site online reflecting the responses of the different Belgian political parties on the online poker issue, is that site still online?

Yeah, but it didn't really work out since the guy who was supposed to make the new site got into bigger things that needed his time more.
Didn't update myself, since I suck at building sites, and there are good alternatives for information. (like http://pokerwet.be/)

fwiw, Vincent vanquickenborne tweeted yesterday:
VincentVQ
"Poker is ook een denksport. Daarom is de huidige reglementering hypocriet en betuttelend."

So, we got some politicians on our side too

Too bad his opinion comes in too late as draft Royal Decrees are already stipulated in big lines and it doesn't look very good or promising.

The pokerstars.be client is up.
If you want to download the .com client, you have to use a proxy.
No problems for playing on the .com client atm afaik.

Rumors are confirmed, cashgames are belgians only, tournaments are global.
You can't log in with the .com-id at .be
DO NOT try and make an account on .be if you have a .com-account at the moment. Some guy tried it and now both of his accounts are locked.

sng's are global too?

Yes, every kind of tournament.

Greetings Kenny

we get new "first depositor" bonus on PS.be, hopefully?

Just got this mail from stars :

edit : just read post below kthx sounds nice


is .BE expected to be super fishy or not ? like .FR or .IT

=> No

Cliffs:

There will be no first deposit bonus for players on .BE to legal restrictions.

Due to legal requirements, PokerStars will be required to pay tax on revenue (rake & tournament fees)

Existing Belgian players who are currently playing on the .COM client will be allowed to continue to play on the .COM client. These players will be migrated to .BE at a later date.

Only newly registered Belgian players who sign up through the Belgian client who will be under Belgian tax regulation.

Players on .BE will be able to play against .COM players for tournaments, however for cash games they will only be able to play against other .BE players.

Due to legal requirements, the legal age to be able to play on .BE will be 21, for this reason players under the age of 21 will not be migrated to the .BE.

Does this mean there will also be no FPPs/VIP statuses etc on the belgian client?

And if FTP follows suit the end of rakeback? Or is it simply that they don't want people depositing more than they can afford to get a bigger bonus?

If FPP system stays in place, PS only gets 10ish% on SNEs, which seems a bit low, which makes me wonder if it's possible to keep the current system up.


Will also be funny to see the high roller cash games be for a lower buyin than the high roller SNGs .

I feel like there are more belgian regs, on the other hand from all the poker players I know, there is maybe 1 that doesn't suck(I know about 50), if PS can get those kind of people online, it will be fishy. But I don't expect the marketing campaign to be that succesful.

Zut alors!

I know a friend who is not 21 and not updated about this whole legalisation and plays on stars. What happens to him ?

PS rates there vipclub too high to let it go imo.
I don't think FTP is going to bother putting up a .be client, since this will mean they'll have to make a deal with a live casino, etc...

btw... we have like... 0 SNE's in Belgium atm... (that I know of) so I don't think that'll be an issue.

Once the players are removed from .com to play at .be, he won't be able to play on PS

chiren is the only SNE afaik

We can't get cash bonuses for the FPP', only tournament tickets or goodies. (due to Belgian legislation)

Greetings Kenny

That sucks. Any news about full tilt poker so far ?

Chiren is no SNE anymore

No cashbonus sucks, damn...
Can I still trade in my points at .com when we HAVE to play at .be? Or are those points transfered?

everything will be set over, even your status but you can redeem your bonus now for real $$ on .com
Accounts will be transfered in the next couple of months.

Greets. K.

k good for me , no cash only mtt and sit and go's and u can play on.com?

Ok, seems like I'll be making my transfer to FTP & others a bit sooner then I thought
No reason for me to keep playing at stars if I can end up with 200k fpp's that I can only trade for stuff I don't need.
Only 25k fpp for me to hit my next 4k bonus.
Feels like I'm saying goodbye to a good friend

You can trade them for $215 & $109 tickts whoch have around the same value as the $4k bonus

Greets. K.

**** you Belgium.

i'm going to cry, now

spacey, money that will be transfered from .com to .be will become 'legal' instantly?

Same + very good question.