LOL...at Phil Ivey WANTING to be famous.

LOL...at all the rich business men who show up in Bobby's Room or try to be on TV on shows like HSP or celebrities playing at the WSOP.

LOL...ask Lindsay Lohen how proud she is right now.

Who are you trying to convince here, me or you?

Also, you avoided the question. Do you think you make money from people who know what they are doing? Then you are in the clear. Do you think you exploit poor devils? Then shame on you. What matters is what YOU think. Do you go against your own believes or not?

Greenstein wrote in his 'Ace on the River' that he felt sorry for the farmer whose money he had just taken. And then he just never mentions it again. He is an idiot, no matter how much he donates.

It is such a weird idea to put poker players on the same level as other celebrities.

OP is got owned

First, you're spot on with your last line, and that's why I think this whole tread (posted on a poker forum nonetheless) is a huge troll bait.

As for your "question", no I don't feel a bit bad about the guy who lose money to me playing poker because I didn't forced him. I mean, by your definition, I should feel bad about the fish who's playing for the first time because "he don't know what he's doing" ? He's in a casino for god sake, I'm not going to fold the nuts to him because I feel I take "advantage" of him. If I start thinking this way I should just quit poker. Be it me or someone else who take his money, that guy as issues I cannot control.

Don't get me wrong : of course I have sympathies for some people, in some situations, but it's rare that your common poker degen fit into that situation. The same way I wouldn't outright steal from an old lady, I wouldn't take advantage of a very poor schmuck who's life crumbling apart but 98% of poker degen that buy in at the table are far from that.

Most of the time, I don't see "poor devils" anywhere on the felt as much as you don't see them when you buy commodities. It's just part of a greater system where if you go upstream enough you'll find someone who live a ****ty life so you can enjoy yours.


And btw, I'm already convinced and I'm not even playing poker for a living.

We are on the same page then.

As long as you think that most of your opponents know what they are doing, there is nothing bad about taking their money.

Just what are you going to do if at some time in the future a study shows that 90% of the losing players are compulsive or near-compulsive gamblers. addicts who can't help it - will you give the money back then?

If it's so bad, why did the OP pursue his doctorate?

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Bart : I'll hope that the remaining 10% are going to give me a break and my money back, that's for sure :-P

it should be renamed "being a poker player is not something to be proud of".

Either that or thrown away for good together with OP.

I think it is safe to say that the op is a complete failure and is not as well as has not ever been in any girl.

Don't worry chances are he'll just become a Drug pushing doctor anyway. Who will get huge kickbacks from the Pharmaceutical company's for the more people he gets hooked on Painkillers and muscle relaxers. But at least he wont be a professional poker player.

OP has posters of justin beiber on his walls

This x1000.

Exactly poker players are at least honest in there intentions. Go to "almost" any lawyers office and see how honest the will be. Lawyers are the butt of many slim ball jokes but any parent would be proud of there kid going to Law School.

Of course there are honest lawyers but they still usually make there living off of others misery/misfortunes.

I know of at least 5 people here in Scranton/WB area that have been out of work for a yr or more that now have jobs because of the MS@PS opening table games.

My Sister just bought a new house in Tannersville PA (and not a cheap place to live for NEPA standards) because of Mount Airy opening.

Winning poker players spend money on other things besides poker. I met about 10 people in the last 2 weeks since tables opened in PA that support there family by playing poker.

So no one can say that there no good comes out of poker or gambling. If thats the case then Bar owners are useless also since there are probably serving alcoholics and making money off there misery.

If all about making money but having money to spend you are helping society. Doctors make there money by people getting sick (AKA misfortune).

Professional poker players are celebrities to fans of poker.

I don't care about sports or athletes does that mean they shouldn't exist? What do they do entertain so what? What real contribution do they make to society?

I hate pop music I think we should get rid of them also. Since the people who really make money of the label owners anyway.

Sorry just started ranting.

Sour Grapes.

Im not conviinced OP is a real doctor.

Yeah I highly doubt he doesn't live at his parents never mind a doctor.

"That's why Phil Ivey has 30k fans on Facebook, compared to millions some singers/actors have."


Because Ivey cares about how many friends he doesn't have on Facebook. Die op!

Can't work out whether not having to be up before 2pm in 6 years is a beat or a brag.

i have hardly any following on facebook. guess being a real estate developer is really lousy and nothing to be proud of

eh, poker as a profession is becoming more acceptable/common.