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Old 07-10-2008, 05:25 AM   #1
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Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

First orbit, first level, day 2... 250/500/50

villain 1: hollow-faced guy w/ moustache and terrapins sweatshirt
villain 2: average young thirties guy w/ glasses and hat

villain 1 limps in EMP, villain 2 completes, BB checks

Flop: K Q 9

villain 2 checks, bb checks, villain 1 bets 1k into 1800

villain 2 checkraises to 3k instantly

bb folds

villain 1 thinks and reraises to 11k total

villain 2 thinks and announces a reraise allin. he has villain 1 covered.

villain 1 has to call 30k more

villain 1 tanks

and tanks

AND FOLDS JT FACE ****ING UP

BEHOLD
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:26 AM   #2
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

what the ****
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:27 AM   #3
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

wat?
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:27 AM   #4
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

lol scared of getting freerolled with JT of clubs.
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:27 AM   #5
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

what book did he read lol
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:28 AM   #6
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

should have just gone allin vs the check-raise to save himself a tough decision imo
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:29 AM   #7
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

Wait, don't they hand out penalties for checking the nuts on the river? Shouldn't folding the nuts get this guy DQ'd?
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:31 AM   #8
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

If you give it a good thinking that may be the greatest fold of all time.
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:33 AM   #9
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

Good fold. He's chopping against JT, flipping against QTcc QJcc ATcc AJcc AQcc Jxcc Txcc, behind against JTss, and destroyed by JTcc. Occasionally villain spews with top set here, but we shouldn't base our reads off what we'd like him to have. When you have an edge on the rest of the field in understanding true equity, there's just no need to call hoping for a coin toss here.

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Old 07-10-2008, 05:33 AM   #10
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

They cant DQ this guy...but it doesnt matter anyway - does it?...he'll be out in 667th place.

Its really hard to win a tournement with scared money..this guy aint going nowhere. Hes be gonna one of those guys who tries to squeak into the money.

But whats worse than the fold - is showing it. Whats he thinking?
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:35 AM   #11
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

Clayton, did the other guy show his hand or just muck?
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:36 AM   #12
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

Snap fold, what was he tanking for??
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:36 AM   #13
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

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First orbit, first level, day 2... 250/500/50

villain 1: hollow-faced guy w/ moustache and terrapins sweatshirt
villain 2: average young thirties guy w/ glasses and hat

villain 1 limps in EMP, villain 2 completes, BB checks

Flop: K Q 9

villain 2 checks, bb checks, villain 1 bets 1k into 1800

villain 2 checkraises to 3k instantly

bb folds

villain 1 thinks and reraises to 11k total

villain 2 thinks and announces a reraise allin. he has villain 1 covered.

villain 1 has to call 30k more

villain 1 tanks

and tanks

AND FOLDS JT FACE ****ING UP

BEHOLD
cmon nobody can be this stupid....can they...no really...CAN THEY?
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:37 AM   #14
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

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should have just gone allin vs the check-raise to save himself a tough decision imo
save himself what decision exactly? lol
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:39 AM   #15
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

I thought the thread could never live up to its title.

BUT IT DID...
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:41 AM   #16
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

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Clayton, did the other guy show his hand or just muck?
other guy mucked, said he had JTcc (maybe).

3 orbits later i give the "JTcc" guy a walk and someone makes an inane table comment about how he has powers to command me to fold. "JTcc" guy says half -under his breath, "yeah lol, just like early when i was like... you have the nuts, FOLD!!"

when the table breaks an hour later villains 1 and 2 share a moment where JTred villain explains himself. I should have listened, but I thought for my tournament tilt level and decided to run to my next table and never look back, for fear of being enveloped in an inescapable cloud of supermonkeyball tilt.
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:45 AM   #17
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5/10 at the rio, MP raises MP2 calls BTN calls, flop: KQJ 2 spades

MP bets, MP2 raises, BTN jams for 2kish (everyone about 2k deep) MP re-shoves MP2 tanks forever and folds AT face up and goes "i know the board is gonna pair or a spade is coming)

hands kept face-down

turn: pairs board

river:x

BTN shows boat, MP2 fist pumps and goes "I KNEW IT WAS COMING I KNEW IT, YES!!!"

i stare amazed at what happend while i see a older lady shaking her head saying "wow nice laydown, i couldnt have made that fold"


after the hand i felt like i was vince vaughn in wedding crasher when he got jerked off underneath the table.....cause at that moment i came in my pants
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:46 AM   #18
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I want to hear an explanation.
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:53 AM   #19
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

Wow.

I just can't see folding the nuts based on what might happen. You might be a dog but how can you fold the nuts?

And to fold face up? He should be taken out back and beaten with a big stick.
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:56 AM   #20
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

Maybe he put villain on Quad Kings? Oh, wait...
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:57 AM   #21
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

This is a pretty easy fold for anyone who knows that if you're never all in, you can't lose the tournament.
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:58 AM   #22
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Re: Behold, the worst play in the history of the WSOP ME

I guess at least the second fold wasn't costing a potential 6+ million bucks.....
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:58 AM   #23
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Wow.

I just can't see folding the nuts based on what might happen. You might be a dog but how can you fold the nuts?

And to fold face up? He should be taken out back and beaten with a big stick.
That was for metagame purposes, ldo
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Old 07-10-2008, 06:14 AM   #24
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This is like level 16 thinking, I'm not suprised the NVG level 1 thinkers can't understand the greatest fold of all time.
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Old 07-10-2008, 06:25 AM   #25
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Villain could have had three cards w/ AJT and a club draw, standard fold.
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