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09-18-2008 , 11:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTonz
I wasn't just talking to you. I was talking to all the people that say they will not even give the show a chance. You certainly have every right to not watch it, but why don't you let other people make up their own minds.

Tonz
How exactly is it that someone saying they won't watch the show, keeping other people from making up their own minds?? Should people not express their opinions about a poker broadcast on a poker forum? I kind of thought that was the whole point....
09-19-2008 , 12:16 AM
Scotty - your attitude clearly indicates you don't give a crap about what other people think of the incident, which I think is fine in itself, but don't you think that, after so many have commented on your apparent insanity and self-righteous delusions, you may want to shut down this thread by not giving trolls any further material ?

Because, you see, you DO come accross as semi-insane. That's an opinion that most are sharing right now. I'm trying really hard to find any rationale behind all of this, from the actual incidents to this train wreck of a thread. What exactly are you trying to achieve with your relentless banter here ? WE GET IT ! YOU DON'T GIVE A **** ! Such a big man with big principles. Bob said it a couple times, this thread is genuinely bizarre to say the least and you're not helping your career in any way.

There's other meaningful, practical ways to feed an ego and you've just about chosen the worst. People that know you say you're a good guy and all, why are you inflicting this upon yourself ? Oh, right. You don't care. You know, this is the internet, people are probably gonna remember this a few years down the road, regardless of if you care or not.

I really get the vibe from most that we're trying to help you here. But, right... you don't care.
09-19-2008 , 12:20 AM
scotty - you are seriously resorting to trying to hurt me based on the fact that I used to own a cat and have one as my avatar? At least I am attempting to analyze your situation based on the things you said. Not sure where any purses would be coming from but you seem to imply that I might have them somehow because I used to have a cat as a pet.

all - Watching the show will not help nor hurt UB/AP in the least unless you happen to be a Nielsen-rating family or something. You watching the show does not help their ratings at all. Only a small percentage of Americans are responsible for the ratings.
If it helps you any, if you randomly get called the following day by a pollster asking what you watched on TV the previous night you can even say, "Definitely NOT the UB Best Damn Poker Show."
TV ratings are not based at all on anything that you or I watch unless somehow they've changed things and actually go to the cable companies to get the viewership numbers from them somehow.
09-19-2008 , 12:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyclark
THEN, it was ‘We’ll make you look bad if you do this!’ AND THEN that didn’t work...
I seriously doubt they'd have a hard time doing this. Heck, you're doing it for them.
09-19-2008 , 02:07 AM
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the OP is a mental patient
09-19-2008 , 02:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shick
I seriously doubt they'd have a hard time doing this. Heck, you're doing it for them.

I seriously believe this could have been a miscommunication on his part.
They are trying to explain to him, "just think how bad you are going to look on national TV if you leave. You don't want to come off like that, do you?"
and he perceives it as a threat that they are intentionally going to make him look bad.

Considering some of his other responses in this thread and inability to comprehend some of the posts I would be willing to bet that this is extremely likely to have been what really happened.
For somebody completely freaking out like he probably was and as paranoid as he seemed to become it isn't hard to confuse innocent advice such as, "if you leave you'll end up looking bad and there's nothing we can do" and interpret it as "if you leave WE'LL MAKE YOU you look bad on purpose because we can!!."
09-19-2008 , 03:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MicroBob
I seriously believe this could have been a miscommunication on his part.
They are trying to explain to him, "just think how bad you are going to look on national TV if you leave. You don't want to come off like that, do you?"
and he perceives it as a threat that they are intentionally going to make him look bad.

Considering some of his other responses in this thread and inability to comprehend some of the posts I would be willing to bet that this is extremely likely to have been what really happened.
For somebody completely freaking out like he probably was and as paranoid as he seemed to become it isn't hard to confuse innocent advice such as, "if you leave you'll end up looking bad and there's nothing we can do" and interpret it as "if you leave WE'LL MAKE YOU you look bad on purpose because we can!!."
lolol i was thinking about that too. i think i might have to watch this jackass make a total fool of himself on tv.

ps i am proud to say i have played poker w the great scottyclark where he called my tabled JJ "The Johnnies". great moment.
09-19-2008 , 03:44 AM
Simply. Some posters in this forum have made obvious points on the following: 1) Scott walked away from an ‘opportunity’ 2) The penalty was not excessive and pretty standard .3) Doesn’t matter if you were told or not. 4) It was reality television.

I will concede the first three points. IF, you accept you are on the outside looking in (and you are). And additionally, you are required to consider something MUST have transpired between A and B, as the one orbit penalty, according to my teammate, was ’nothing detrimental to chances of winning.’ Simply rational.

Lets do the math. Can still win + accept penalty = prizes and victory

There may have been a few F bombs previously by other contestants. I really thought there was, because I recall thinking ‘Good. That wasn’t me!’. (No references to rules were made) and at the final table, I asked Matt if the table banter was ok, and he replied ‘TELL better jokes!’ It was relaxed group. Like friends playing poker. I CAN NOT stress THIS enough.

Jason, in his post, posted at P5s, at 6:52 on 9/15 broke the spoiler on the final drama, and my Part 3 was posted in response many hours later. In his post, he described the infraction, ‘unmaliciously he called he called another player a ****ker…’ Absolutely accurate!

THERE WAS NO misunderstanding. The Executive Producer actions speak loudly! (point 4 does not apply IMO). The fact that this show can be classified as reality television, IMO opinion doesn’t give them exclusive rights. My presence is MINE.

On the issue of Bob. (Chief who Looks IN from OUTSIDE).

Why was the CF thread locked? After a month, 100000+ views, 647 posts, and Bob gets the last say? Please address my cat loving friend. This is turning into a Scott vs. Bob thread and we ALL know that Bob always gets the final say. Have you really been flexing these opinionated opinions for 5 years here?

Cornell Fiji stole millions thread. lol. RIP

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...3/index44.html

I can not stop laughing that psychological evaluation portion of your closing post, as I again find it typical of your style. (did I call it style?). ~You are truly a pompous azz~

Last edited by scottyclark; 09-19-2008 at 04:12 AM. Reason: for BOB
09-19-2008 , 04:37 AM
The highlight of Bob's closing post for those to lazy to check.

'It should also be noted that I did not post any psych analysis of him. I merely posted for someone else who sent me a PM. That poster was merely copying the 9 things of the DSM-whatever-it-is. The only analysis in there was him saying that he thought all 9 applied to Steve. As best I can tell, I think it might be correct but it's kind of hard to say.'

Gold. Pure Gold.

I can't believe Jim moderates here.

Good Luck and ENJOY!

Scott Clark

P.S. Please list your degrees in your response Bob.

Last edited by scottyclark; 09-19-2008 at 04:48 AM.
09-19-2008 , 04:41 AM
Dear Scott

I suggest you find a new therapist ASAP.
09-19-2008 , 05:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyclark
I will concede the first three points. IF, you accept you are on the outside looking in (and you are). And additionally, you are required to consider something MUST have transpired between A and B, as the one orbit penalty, according to my teammate, was ’nothing detrimental to chances of winning.’ Simply rational.
So far, there is nothing from you explaining how you got from A (rational, fun table banter, great experience on the show) to B (freaking out over a one orbit penalty and storming off the set).

Ok, something transpired that caused you to act in a way that most people reading this consider to be a huge over reaction. But what?
09-19-2008 , 06:09 AM
Hi Scotty,

I've enjoyed your thread! Please post more stories.

All,

What's with the judgement and hate? I really don't get it or what one might think is wrong with Scotty. He's just telling a story, seeming without outlandish judgements. He's also really funny.

gl dude,

Bill
09-19-2008 , 07:35 AM
And just when you thought he couldn't get more irrational and insane...wow
09-19-2008 , 07:57 AM
Point A to Point B? I feel I have thoroughly explained my version of the story. To know me, is to know that I hate repeating myself. My pet peeve.

When I worked in the Unions, and it was my turn to run a crew, I was faced with a diverse crowd. Farmboys, Caucasians, Blacks, Christians, drinkers, druggies, ex convicts, and political friends that were brother members working in tough inner city neighborhoods. While my job wasn’t easy at times, the reason I was good at the job was an ability to mediate and relate. Having a dozen different agendas (names) in your time book and a Union Boss looking over your shoulder isn’t easy.

As far as the BDPS, there is reason I made the show and made the final table. BECAUSE I was the right man for THAT job. The job required personality, poker skill, an ability to work with others and a competition. I EARNED that ROLE on the show. UB knows I can play, but the ACT was what got me there. Jason, and my opponent in said hand had the ACT also. AND they could play. What? There were prizes? We never seemed to focus on that.

SO I call a guy that I KNOW can take it, a phucker in a hand! Matt is in a spot. The call seems like a no brainer, but the issue is much deeper. I am certain that the ‘reality television’ aspect was beginning to creep into this production AND ALL bets are off at this point. Hit it Frank!

And now, the end is near; And so I face the final curtain. My friend, Ill say it clear, Ill state my case, of which I’m certain. I’ve lived a life that’s full. I’ve traveled each and every highway; And more, much more than this, I did it my way.

Regrets, I’ve had a few; But then again, too few to mention.
I did what I had to do And saw it through without exemption.
I planned each charted course; Each careful step along the byway, But more, much more than this, I did it my way.

Yes, there were times, I’m sure you knew When I bit off more than I could chew. But through it all, when there was doubt, I ate it up and spit it out. I faced it all and I stood tall; And did it my way.

I’ve loved, I’ve laughed and cried. I’ve had my fill; my share of losing. And now, as tears subside, I find it all so amusing.
To think I did all that; And may I say - not in a shy way,
No, oh no not me, I did it my way.

For what is a man, what has he got? If not himself, then he has naught.To say the things he truly feels; And not the words of one who kneels. The record shows I took the blows -And did it my way!

My hope for the muppets and trolls in this thread? That you go half the places, play half the poker, meet half the people and have half the fun I have had in my life.

Good Luck and ENJOY!

Scott Clark

P.S. I will be MIA, as I hear someone at the door.

Last edited by scottyclark; 09-19-2008 at 08:10 AM.
09-19-2008 , 08:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burdzthewurd
UB is going to be pissed that you posted spoilers, they read 2p2...
I predict UB will be shockingly silent regarding any of these allegations.
09-19-2008 , 08:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyclark
Simply. Some posters in this forum have made obvious points on the following: 1) Scott walked away from an ‘opportunity’ 2) The penalty was not excessive and pretty standard .3) Doesn’t matter if you were told or not. 4) It was reality television.

I will concede the first three points. IF, you accept you are on the outside looking in (and you are). And additionally, you are required to consider something MUST have transpired between A and B, as the one orbit penalty, according to my teammate, was ’nothing detrimental to chances of winning.’ Simply rational.
See, isn't it BECAUSE we're on the outside looking in that we can "analyze" the situation better than yourself ? Your case/explanations/excuses so far have given us no reason to think you haven't grossly and ridiculously overreacted to what is really a 13-year-old teenage spoiled brat hissy fit over the tinyest of matters and that you still think you were right to act like you did, out of misplaced and misguided "principles". You're vehemently defending yourself to an undefendable cause, which leads me to think you're genuinely ashamed and regretful, a sentiment that usually triggers the kind of responses you've given us (self-righteous gibberish and mild personal attacks).

I really don't get you. There's no way you can be that dense. You seem like an intelligent fellow, but you really don't grasp the simple fact that you're still increasingly coming accross as irrational, narrow-minded, holier-than-thou and downright weird in this thread. Why you're still feeding the trolls is beyond my simple, semi-literate french canadian "pompous azz".

Your top 10 was genuinely funny, though. GJ.

I think you might get it, deep inside. You just don't wanna admit defeat to an unwinnable battle. 2+2, or any kind of poker forum for that matter, should never come accross, to anyone, as a place of retribution or self-serving justification. You probably began this thread as a means of setting the record straight and revealing your side of the coin, but ended up making yourself look like a fool. You might be looking for validation on a poker forum, which is idiocy for obvious reasons ...
09-19-2008 , 08:25 AM
double
09-19-2008 , 08:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyclark
Point A to Point B? I feel I have thoroughly explained my version of the story. To know me, is to know that I hate repeating myself. My pet peeve.

When I worked in the Unions, and it was my turn to run a crew, I was faced with a diverse crowd. Farmboys, Caucasians, Blacks, Christians, drinkers, druggies, ex convicts, and political friends that were brother members working in tough inner city neighborhoods. While my job wasn’t easy at times, the reason I was good at the job was an ability to mediate and relate. Having a dozen different agendas (names) in your time book and a Union Boss looking over your shoulder isn’t easy.

As far as the BDPS, there is reason I made the show and made the final table. BECAUSE I was the right man for THAT job. The job required personality, poker skill, an ability to work with others and a competition. I EARNED that ROLE on the show. UB knows I can play, but the ACT was what got me there. Jason, and my opponent in said hand had the ACT also. AND they could play. What? There were prizes? We never seemed to focus on that.

SO I call a guy that I KNOW can take it, a phucker in a hand! Matt is in a spot. The call seems like a no brainer, but the issue is much deeper. I am certain that the ‘reality television’ aspect was beginning to creep into this production AND ALL bets are off at this point. Hit it Frank!

And now, the end is near; And so I face the final curtain. My friend, Ill say it clear, Ill state my case, of which I’m certain. I’ve lived a life that’s full. I’ve traveled each and every highway; And more, much more than this, I did it my way.

Regrets, I’ve had a few; But then again, too few to mention.
I did what I had to do And saw it through without exemption.
I planned each charted course; Each careful step along the byway, But more, much more than this, I did it my way.

Yes, there were times, I’m sure you knew When I bit off more than I could chew. But through it all, when there was doubt, I ate it up and spit it out. I faced it all and I stood tall; And did it my way.

I’ve loved, I’ve laughed and cried. I’ve had my fill; my share of losing. And now, as tears subside, I find it all so amusing.
To think I did all that; And may I say - not in a shy way,
No, oh no not me, I did it my way.

For what is a man, what has he got? If not himself, then he has naught.To say the things he truly feels; And not the words of one who kneels. The record shows I took the blows -And did it my way!

My hope for the muppets and trolls in this thread? That you go half the places, play half the poker, meet half the people and have half the fun I have had in my life.

Good Luck and ENJOY!

Scott Clark

P.S. I will be MIA, as I hear someone at the door.
O M F G
09-19-2008 , 08:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyclark
As far as the BDPS, there is reason I made the show and made the final table. BECAUSE I was the right man for THAT job. The job required personality, poker skill, an ability to work with others and a competition. I EARNED that ROLE on the show. UB knows I can play, but the ACT was what got me there. Jason, and my opponent in said hand had the ACT also. AND they could play. What? There were prizes? We never seemed to focus on that.

SO I call a guy that I KNOW can take it, a phucker in a hand! Matt is in a spot. The call seems like a no brainer, but the issue is much deeper. I am certain that the ‘reality television’ aspect was beginning to creep into this production AND ALL bets are off at this point. Hit it Frank!
It isn't "much deeper". At all. AT ALL. You try hard to make us believe it is, but, come on, man. You blew it, big time. And looks to me like you know it.

What's with the whole Sinatra schtick ? Are you on acid ?

The previous poster pretty much captures 90% of 2+2's reactions to this thread. Unbelievable.
09-19-2008 , 08:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsis
Why you're still feeding the trolls is beyond my simple, semi-literate french canadian "pompous azz".
There's a difference between trolling and merely calling a spade a spade, which is basically what many (including myself) have been doing.

Also, don't try to find a method to his madness or try to understand him, you have to take it for what it is i.e pure insanity and possibly drugs.
09-19-2008 , 09:00 AM
This dude is starring in his own movie....it's time to stop feeding the troll
09-19-2008 , 09:12 AM
Go Scotty keep it up! Thanks for the Mail! Keep fighting the good fight against UB. Your battle with MicroBob, you cannopt win as I suspect he will eventually ban you or something. Moderators own this forum, so they can own anyone too.

Other moderators didn't like my efforts on exposing UB, they called me crazy and rambling. Looks like I get the last laugh b/c Mr. Brunker of MSNBC believed me.

Again thanks for the info, let me know when you want meto help.
I am on your side, and I donn't think MicroBob has a Psychology degree, does he even have a college degree? I am prolly more qualified than he is with a B.A. in Sociology and Criminology.
09-19-2008 , 11:11 AM
This is becoming one of my favorite threads ever.

-Bill
09-19-2008 , 12:12 PM
Boy. I thought op went sideways sometime ago, but that Frank Sinatra thing went off the page.

Btw, OP: The cf thread was closed BECAUSE HE PAID THE GUY BACK. Truth be told, it was because of a little prodding from yours truly, as I accused the mods of being vindictive to cf. Perhaps I was unfair to make that accusation, but it just kept pissing me off seeing the guys name in the title of the thread, saying he stole a bunch of money. I felt that whether he did the dastardly deed or not, it was a bit much to continually call him out by name on a forum where personal privacy is much appreciated. But lets not digress any further. Suffice to say that it wasn't closed by the mods closing ranks to protect their own. Make whatever other accusations you will, but you're wrong here.

So what the He**'s the deal with those Montana Frat Boys?
09-19-2008 , 12:34 PM
Is Matt Savage the tournament director for UB's Aruba Classic? Wouldn't he then "shill" for UB? Matt always seemed buddy-buddy with Phil, he prolly didn't want anything to happen to UB or Phil's name. Scotty, have you met or talked with him since he posted in this thread, what is you opinion on his post?

Montana Frat Boys, LOL! Scott Tom, and the rest of the SAE chapter is it? Any idea when these frat boys went to Montana? Maybe there are some good group pictures in yearbooks, or the current frat boys ion Montana have heard stories about the former group and their poker room?

      
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