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09-16-2008 , 06:45 AM
Cool story OP

and LOL at "bad boy of blackjack" wtf..
09-16-2008 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood Dave
As the host of this season of the BDPS season 2 -- and a new UB pro -- i was on set for the duration of the shooting last week. And without getting into the specifics of details better left unspoiled for the viewing audience, i do need to correct some misinformation here.
Don't worry about spoilers. Nobody here is going to watch this stupid show.
09-16-2008 , 08:14 AM
OP is a total DOUCHE.

1) Playing on UB and participating in this UB informercial show. You deserve whatever bad karma comes of this.

2) Dropping the F-Bomb is considered bad form no matter where you're playing. Every poker room reserves the right to enforce a penalty for abusive language. Besides, YOU'RE ON T-F***ING-V! You can't say that on TV, they can't show it. You should be an adult about it and understand that. If you said it in the moment and was caught up in your emotions, fine, accept the penalty LIKE AN ADULT and move forward.

3) ...and this gets my goat the most. The "show one show all" rule applies to people, not cards. If you show the guy next to you you had the King, you are obliged to show the whole table, so everyone has the same info. It DOES NOT mean that if you flash your King, everyone is entitled to see the deuce-kicker. The dealer deserves a KITN for showing that Jack and needs to go read Robert's Rules of Poker.

So instead of showing your potential backers your mad poker skills, you showed America your bad social skills. Nice hand, Sir.
09-16-2008 , 08:27 AM
How fitting, the UBBDPS... brought to you by the people that give us







A match made in heaven IMO. UB must be going after teh poor, white, trailer park trash demographic.
09-16-2008 , 09:34 AM
I'll watch it up to that point, and then drop it. heh. Interesting.
09-16-2008 , 10:12 AM
It sounds like the whole lot of you deserved to be punished by having to spend time together.
09-16-2008 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by scottyclark
lol at 'Hollywood' Dave...known UB shill.

If you would like to know more 'about the man'. Heres his biography at his web site. I just hate the thought of directing ANYONE to give your site a hit. Trust me, my penis knows more about poker than 'Hollywood'.

http://www.hollywooddave.com/whoishd.php

AND another thing David, I did observe you and Annie speaking of me today on UB as Annie played a Sit and Go.

Dave? You just wanna fist fight on tape? Get you some Scotty Clark!

Now THAT would make great television!
LMGDMFAO
09-16-2008 , 11:16 AM
spill the beans on aj green and scott tom
09-16-2008 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JP OSU
Funny story OP, however, you sound completely insane
Search for other scotty clark stuff here, he is genuinely insane, it's quite sad.
09-16-2008 , 12:08 PM
Wow. I was enjoying this story up until the point it started to make no sense at all...and by that I am referring to when OP went absolutely nutso insane.
Leaving the whole place over that minor ruling and possible miscommunication is pretty incredible.

Also, LOL at trying to get the dealer to 'show one, show all' on that after the opponent shows one card.

However, this whole thread actually gives me the slightest bit of interest in watching this silly show. and I hate pretty much all reality-TV and there's zero chance I would have been interested in watching (or even known about it) without this thread.

But walking off the set for a fairly standard ruling over an F-bomb and then trying to argue, "they should have told me ahead of time" is really really bizarre.
So it was an honest mistake and he was just trying to act like a Hellmuth-team guy. No biggie. Just accept the little penalty and move on.
Way different than storming out in the most idiotic attempt to 'take a stand' ever.

He had to make this thread because he knows that he'll just look like an idiot on the TV broadcast. But unfortunately his actions ended up being so idiotic that he looks the same in this thread.
09-16-2008 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pigtim
good God, just checked out 'Hollywoods' webpage, what a douche. UB continues to oudo itself. Amazing.

Actually I just finished his home page introduction and I now hold a better view of Hollywood Dave than I did from just seeing him on that gawd awful Best Poker Show ....show. I guess that shows how big of an idiot he appears to be from that show alone. I always assumed he was just an unemployed actor that they found in an audition to play the part of PH's younger brother.
09-16-2008 , 12:20 PM
I don't know much about Hollywood Dave but I too hold a higher opinion after reading that bio than I did before.
09-16-2008 , 12:30 PM
You said UB trimmed the prizes from last year, which is untrue. UB only offered 3 Aruba seats last year, not 6. I would know -- i played the final table and won one of the 3 packages.

You mean they GAVE you a package cause you are the huge douchebag you are. I doubt you are gonna find many fans here
09-16-2008 , 12:42 PM
Phill Smellmuth? That is brutal. You gotta try harder than that. What are you 6?
09-16-2008 , 02:22 PM
I would like to reiterate a few points…

A) This was NOT a tournament, this was a television reality poker show.
B) I care not how I will be portrayed on television by Ultimate Bet
C) The standoff was NOT simply about the validity of Matt’s call

I must admit that I did not want to walk, the fact that I walked was due to the point that I was NOT being heard and FOX employee Bob Skolnick began to play ‘hardball’ with me and threatened portray me in bad light (see B above). In typical UB fashion, the attitude was ‘ What are you going to do about it? We make the rules here, and we admit no fault or role in this failure pertaining to this matter.’ Sound familiar?

I would like to remind everyone that I’m the guy that left UB hanging on a show that will be aired on a major network. I feel used by Ultimate Bet and FOX and I am a bit disappointed by the haters here that WERE NOT THERE that are attacking me. I've been attacked enough, by cameras at the Hilton, and by Annie Duke and 'Hollywood' in chat on UB. AND my girlfriend was upset in our home by forces that I had a business arrangement with.

At least you guys squashed Hollywood Dave roundly. Lets address the issue of Hollywood Dave. Dave’s ‘big break’ came on the World Series of Blackjack aired on GSN. Would anyone like to identify who was behind that show? It is a little known fact, but known all the same…

Good Luck and ENJOY!

Scott Clark

Last edited by scottyclark; 09-16-2008 at 02:37 PM. Reason: edited for puncuation
09-16-2008 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob

Also, LOL at trying to get the dealer to 'show one, show all' on that after the opponent shows one card.
To be fair their is/was an anti needling rule on the books that says that if an opponent shows one card the player can ask to see the other card.
09-16-2008 , 02:30 PM
I will not argue the 'show one show all rule' as I feel it is immaterial. Understand, I have logged nearly 20000 hours of live play since 1993 in over 50 Casinos from the Borgata to the Commerce, from Chicago to Biloxi. You will encounter many different rulings in many different regions in the USA.

ANYONE that makes a BIG POINT of attacking me on this issue, simply hasn't traveled much or played much poker...

Scott
09-16-2008 , 02:42 PM
How many players were left and what were stack sizes when you quit?

Everyone involved in this seems like a douche including Phil, Annie, OP, the bad boy of blackjack and everyone at UB and Fox. Not surprising given that they steal from customers and then cover it all up.

How does one decide that it is a good idea to be called "the bad boy of blackjack"?
09-16-2008 , 03:10 PM
scotty - I've played in a lot of casinos as well.
I believe that the 'show one, show all' rule does not mean what you think it does. No biggie on misinterpreting it and I am sure there are places where showing one card means you have to show both of them.
But 'show one, show all' almost always is meant to refer to the idea that you can't just show one player at the table your hole-cards...if you do that then everybody gets to see them so that one player doesn't get an information advantage.

Something like that anyway. Again, no biggie.

I still think that walking off the set over the f-bomb one-orbit ruling by Savage combined with one producer asking you to come back and mentioning that they'll probably make you look bad if you don't ends up making you look really nuts.
Additionally, I think it's possible the producer was just telling you the truth about how you will end up looking regardless of how they spin it. You ARE going to end up looking bad.
You have this big beef with them bending over backwards to try to get you to come back with calls to whatever number they could try to reach you at.
You walking off the set of a reality-show like that is pretty much begging for them to follow you with cameras (and this couldn't have been the reason you walked anyway...you had already decided you weren't coming back by that point).

They had to continue the show, they really wanted to try to get you to come back, they were trying to reach you in any way possible to achieve that but they were also in a hurry because there were other people waiting to continue the 'game' 'tv show' or whatever you want to call it.
Their behavior to try to get you back on the set strikes me as some of their best behavior throughout this whole thing (compared with their relative lack of organization prior to that, keeping you guys there for 14 hours on day 1, etc etc).

They made it clear they wanted you. They reminded you that you were just one seat away from an Aruba package and that you were out for only one orbit. But they weren't going to cower to your demands to have the punishment/ruling removed just because you thought it was unfair. And they weren't going to give you $50k.

You were behaving like an ass.
And if there was a point at which UB was NOT behaving badly it seems to me it was during your big, whiny temper tantrum.

Keep in mind: I don't know you at all and knew nothing of this show nor your walk-off or anything like that before this thread. The way you set this up in the thread did create the element of surprise in me.
I was getting into it and expected there to be some really bad UB behavior or ruling by the end of it and was looking forward to it (for I still dislike UB for all the regular reasons). Then, when it was revealed, my reaction was, "Holy crap! He walked over that!"
It just seems so strange.
It takes a lot for me to take UB's side in a story but somehow we have gotten to that point.

I am guessing a lot of the other people in this thread are the same way. People are actually saying that you were in the wrong here and that UB was in the right. Considering the animosity towards UB among the masses around here that really tells you something.
They made a ruling you didn't like and you stormed off and got really weird about it.
09-16-2008 , 03:32 PM
The above post pretty much sums my exact thoughts.

By acting big and being the guy that takes no **** from anybody (regardless of the scale and scope of said ****, mind you) you managed to make yourself look childish, whiny and self-righteous, without mentioning the fact that your fit took away any chance at that sweet Aruba package.

I don't think you realize how lucky you were to be in that position, and you threw it all away because of immaturity and, some may agree, pure idiocy. I don't know what else to call it. The mere fact that you're defending yourself the way you are tells me you don't quite get it...
09-16-2008 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by scottyclark
At least you guys squashed Hollywood Dave roundly. Lets address the issue of Hollywood Dave. Dave’s ‘big break’ came on the World Series of Blackjack aired on GSN. Would anyone like to identify who was behind that show? It is a little known fact, but known all the same…
Didn't realize i was an 'issue' needing 'addressing' considering the subject here is your bizarre walkoff from an incredible 4-handed freeroll, but since you persist in spouting misinformation, thought i'd respond once more.

The WSOB was a wholly owned original show created solely by GSN, running for 4 seasons before taking what appears to be a very extended 'hiatus'...so I really don't understand where you're going with that one, guy.

Let me make an educated guess and say that what it appears you are trying to do is play a '7-degrees-of-Russ-Hamilton' game with another show I was involved with for two seasons, the Ultimate Blackjack Tour. Which means that whatever negative implications you are trying desperately (and innacurately) to make here would also apply equally to the other former members of Team UBT: Johnny Chan, Phil Laak, Antonio Esfandiari, Jennifer Tilly, Robert Williamson III, Phil Hellmuth, Devilfish, etc etc etc.

Its one thing to blow off an opportunity everyone else on the show who DIDN'T make the final table would've loved to have (not to mention letting down teammates whose own chances to win were affected by your choice), quite another to start sounding off on imaginary conspiracy theories just to throw attention away from the topic at hand.

I've been dishing it out on TV for years, so obv I can take it just as well. But very surprising that you had nothing but good things to say to me, the FSN people, and other execs on set all week when apparently you've carried such paranoid disdain for everyone involved for so long now. After all, no one forced you to do the show. You auditioned...

-hd.

Last edited by Hollywood Dave; 09-16-2008 at 03:53 PM.
09-16-2008 , 04:07 PM
Well done David, you have accommodated me once again. You’re so easy. And it only took you an hour and a half. I apologize for NOT remembering all the highlights of your illustrious career, AND YES I may have confused WSOB with the UBT.

That’s who Hollywood Dave IS…known UB shill that owes his very existence to the ‘powers that be’ behind the scenes at UB.

Now. How bout that fist fight sweetheart?

Scott
09-16-2008 , 04:24 PM
My comments directed at you since the show finished filming are a result of monitoring you and Annie Duke chatting on UB while Annie played a Sit and Go yesterday afternoon.

(I felt like Santa Claus spying on my kids)

You continually claim I am spewing misinformation, and you seem to have but two points in this regard. BOTH immaterial.

A) the WSOB versus UBT reference
B) The number of Aruba packages awarded in season 1.

Naturally, you would win one of those packages last year, as you were nothing more than a plant. EVERYONE knows my penis knows more about poker than you do, and especially if they watched last years show. AND you have the gall to speak of 'fairness to others'. Laughable.
09-16-2008 , 04:33 PM
anyone remember this thread?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...yclark-246812/




Hey Hollywood Dave you remind me of a fatter/shorter version of the lead singer in Papa Roach.
09-16-2008 , 05:32 PM
OP may very well be the most pathetic person ever to post on 2+2 (and I include Brandi in that), that is an achievement that blows away any Aruba package or staking deal. Very well done sir, please post more examples of emotionally maladjusted life failures, maybe start with your Senior Prom where the beeatchs just "didn't get" Scotty Clark and how you schooled one of them by beating her to death.

      
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