i dont get what newhizzle did to get banned? i mean, was this post enough? i guess i could see that but i kinda doubt it and def dont agree with it. was he bashing ds, sue and the rest over at nwp?

i feel like i missed someting and i obv hate to miss out on details

Have you ever read a thread in which Annette_15 was the topic of discussion?

Even if that was a crime (what the leader did/does), being closely associated to that leader wouldn't go through in court, I'm pretty sure.

I guess we all realize but won't agree, which is why this debate is going on.

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have you ever read BBV or BBV4L or Politics or SMP or BBV4L or NVG or ATF or OOT??!?!


I assume you're speaking of EDF, right?

Im sorry Jenn but your a complete fail, after befriending Brandi you sold yourself down the river on here doing 360s etc(sad). I find it amazing your still going on the attack now, against NWP lol, you think someone who has made major errors in friends and oponions just recently (you are actually one of the causes of this whole mess) you want innocent people banned who enjoy this site and contribute alot more than you ever will (interview on NWP was a mess aswell, mumbling away). Maybe think before blabbing on here, or you might need to 360 again, unless your just an attention Whre.

Best wishes Karl.

Hi Jenn:

Again it is our policy not to tolerate those individuals who are associated with the idea of demeaning and hurting others for just the pure pleasure of doing so. Druff needs to disassociate himself from this before he can come back to our site. And the sooner he does this the better it will be for him on both a personal and professional level.

Best wishes,
Mason

Um, where are you posting from, Vegas1369? Mars?

Micon broke a story?? LOL. That might hold water if the story came from ANYONE EVEN REMOTELY RESEMBLING A CREDIBLE SOURCE.

Brandi sent him that picture, after she went through and found and old one that would leave you all with the worst impression. And I KNOW what story she told Micon regarding it.

It should NEVER have been put into print. Micon and Druff should have KNOWN BETTER than to post that kind of content about innocent people. Especially considering WHO ASKED THEM TO DO IT.

It breaks every code of ethics, morals, journalistic honor that I know. And they didn't do it to identify a predator, or expose a crime. They did it for MONEY. And that sickens me.

1. if you're going to ban brandi, micon, brandon, druff and newhouse, jennfox needs to go
2. why has nobody addressed the reason for newhouses's ban?
3. lol @ all of you suggesting DS should be banned. that will NEVER happen.

Brandi befriended me. Not the other way around.

And yeah, I was a good friend to her. Being a good friend will never be something I am ashamed of. And disassociating myself from her is also something I am not ashamed of. I had lines and boundaries in that relationship that she knew about from the beginning. She forfeited our friendship in the end. She didn't have the right to ask me to forfeit my reputation for her because of it. And I have no regrets about the things I have posted on here in the past. I admitted to making a mistake defending Brandi publicly, but frankly, a lot of good people have made that mistake. Even then I was doing what I thought was right. And I'll continue doing what I think is right, with very little regard for your opinion of it.

I just don't appreciate the personal attacks. You don't know me at all.


This isn't about Brandi anyway. This is about cleaning up her mess. And I think Mason and whoever else is doing a fine job of it. Thanks guys.

IMO druff is a good poster.
I dont follow NWP at all, but I do know he is closely associated w/ that forum.
I also know NWP has alot of scummy stuff.

But to me, Druff seems like a good poster.
I assume 95% of ppl on 2+2 dont know any of the stuff that posters are associated w/ away from 2+2 unless it is blown up into a big story.

So to me druff seems like a regular poster.

Hope this is only a temp.

^^^ ZOMG Money!!!!! Didn't DS brag about making 50K off of increased traffic from Brandi. Then when the whole thing blows up in his face and hurts someone innocent Mason shuts everything down. And I agree with the other poster, Mason, do you actually read what goes on in your other forums?

what odds will u lay for #3

considering "never" is a lifetime wager than i can never collect, none

Depends, can a ban be posthumous?

Although I dont know the exact details banning Dan Druff for trolling seems really extreme. IMO we owe something to him for all the work he did in the AP scandal (just because you werent affected by it doesnt mean it wasnt very generous of him). Not to mention im sure theres people that troll other people all the time and are not banned.

I love most of druffs posts but he is little better than micon in truth. While micon openly admits to being a slime ball druff carries on the facade that he is a decent human being. Yet he takes part in nearly all the threads bashing individuals or is happy to host a radio show while he claims to be a "mediator". He is willing to exploit innocent people just as much as micon. The fact that posters on here don't see that is laughable. Druff also does an extremely good job of playing stupid or claiming ignorance (i.e. see "hey i don;t know what micon does") but unfortunately for him he's too intelligent for people to really beleive him.

BTW NWP continues to claim sue is "******ed" when it is obviously not true. Druff has made no effort to remove the slander to her name and of course claims ignorance as he always does in these situations. At least micon has the balls to admit what he i

Wow. I'm glad we have Jen to sort it all out. She did such a good job with knowing what was going on when she was an insider in the brandi story.

Now that she in inside this one she knows every detail -- ok. Even if the didn't do it to help they did identify a pxxxxxx and that's what matters in the end.

I can see why your desperate to clear this MESS up, you have shown inadequete judgement on most posts you have made, maybe you should be looking for a self-ban, cant believe your still commenting on this.

Best wishes Karl

Mason,

Please explain which part of your ethics code covered banning Abdul?

You are no tthe Justice League -- you are a publisher of gambling books.

I'll take a guess and say it is the part of an ethics code where you are getting your XXX handed to you in a poker discussion.

just to clarify so she doesn't simply think i'm trolling: jennfox is just as guilty in the whole saga as newhouse, and is by her own admission a friend of micon's. if you're going to ban newhouse and if you're going to ban people by association, jennfox needs to be banned

No. I never have.

We get up to 20,000 posts a day and I am only able to read a small number of them.

As for Annette_15 the only thing I know about her is that she won a major tournament in Europe and must be a very good tournament player.

Best wishes,
Mason

NWP is anti semitic, racist, sexist, and chalk full of curse words and pornography. But, I still LOVE to read it for entertainment purposes. Druff might not be a in your face type slime ball like Micon, but he is still a slime ball.

By "predator" do you mean DS? If in fact this girl does have a 125 IQ and her disabilities are strictly physical in nature, this does not compute. Having seen many pictures of her, it's clear (as someone above pointed out) that Brandi obv chose the one that makes her look the worst. Mostly blind + epileptic + somewhat deformed does not equal ******ed. Has DS got a fetish for girls with disabilities? Who knows. You could call him a freak and a very weird dude, but calling him a predator based on Sue's conditions seems to be devaluing her ability to make adult decisions (and she is an adult) because of her physical limitations. Maybe shes got a fetish for crazy cat people and thieving hookers (not mentioning any names). Would you also call someone a predator for having a sexual relationship with someone who is in a wheelchair? I see little difference.

I'm sure they'll start banning me once telling the truth becomes a crime.

Hi ace:

I know Sue and have talked to her on many occasions. I can assure you and everyone else that she is not ******ed.

She does have a visual handicap in one eye, but can see reasonably well from the other. She also has a slight deformity in her face which you don't even notice in person, but for some reason appears in the photographs of her when she smiles. I am also very good friends with her cat Snowflake, who is one cool cat indeed.

Best wishes,
Mason