NVG sucks. Deal with it dude. And 50 posts a day about some BJ video and resulting aftermath was just stupid. Sorry you enjoyed it so much. It's gone now and the forum's better for it. You want that kind of crap, go to NWP.

I think you mean Pokerbob, but I agree that is what put him on Mason's radar.

FREE DAN BRIGHT!

You have been banned for the following reason:
NWP
Date the ban will be lifted: Never

WTF for?

If the Mason or the site has a problem with all the Brandi threads then you make a rule about NO MORE BRANDI THREADS...and you tell David Sklansky that this especially applies to him.

When the freaking admin is starting a ton of the threads about the subject and others who actually know her are choosing to respond then it seems unfair to blame those people for keeping the topic alive.

2+2 allowed it all to continue....and David himself was promoting it big-time.

You are correct. david will not be posting further on this subject.

Regarding Druff....generally a good poster.
Really really really stupid ban.
Like incomprhensibly bad.

Some guy here on 2+2 is even using him in his avatar, right? As well as e-stalking him on the tables. So maybe it's inappropriate for him to start a thread asking "what's up with that?" when he could simply send a PM and/or contact Cake support about it.
But that is hardly ban-worthy. It's the type of thing that previously was allowed here all the time. So tell Dan that he shouldn't do that anymore because 2+2 is going to change the tone around here.

Druff is a smart guy who can play ball if you just tell him what the rules are.

Banning Druff over something like this is so ridiculously incorrect.

Druff was HUGE on the whole Absolute mess and analysis of the situation. We owe him some thanks for that one. This is a topic that Mason tried to get involved in too but, as far as I could see, Druff was actually extremely helpful in the analysis while it was still all trying to be figured out whereas Mason kind of entered the scene after the fact except that he did apparently tell AP to 'forget it' when they requested that all those threads about it be deleted.


Druff has also made some very good points in the thread about SillySal vs. Full Tilt supposedly'stealing' her money.

So he trolled PokerBob a little bit in a thread on here to get back at all the weird trolling Bob did to him on Cake. That is one mild error as far as I can tell.
give him a couple little 2+2 infraction points, tell him the tone is going to change around here beginning now, and move on.
He's too valuable to just throw him out like that.

I'm a little tired of some of these bans that Mason occasionally hands out when he's feeling grouchy and/or slightly bothered.
The bans that he gives were not given out by the mods OF that specific forum who have a much better idea of what goes on in and around their own forums.
Mason ends up banning the most mild of transgressors when he could just contact the mod of that forum and say "We need some new rules beginning now" without banning everyone who violated said rules BEFORE the change and when such stuff was still allowed.

Druff is currently encouraging the trolling of this site. That is the reason he is banned.

mat are you david sklanskys brother?

Thanks Tony.

As I explained in the old thread about it:
PokerBob and I are semi-frequently mixed up.
Some peope who have met PokerBob before will mention it to me thinking that it was me that they met.

We are both 37 year old pudgy white guys named Bob though. So I definitely feel a certain kinship with PokerBob. I am not sure if he reciprocates.
I'm kind of feeling like a mild e-stalker with this whole 'kinship' thing of some guy named Bob whom I've never met.
And, as far as I understand Pokerbob, strange e-stalkerness is evidently another thing we have in common.

There was a thread recently in the Beginners Questions forum about the AP scandel that was deleted. So, maybe this is a banned topic now?

+EV decision

I'm sure it was escalating to an uncomfortable position for 2+2. The veiled and not so veiled threats which were confirmed by Brandi whoreself, and the mounting evidence that she is the basest of all lifeforms with a pseudo-celebrity complex trolling these forums for lonely, masochistic ATMs has her once incipient demise now fast approaching. This salient fact begs for some distance and overrides the played out drama. In addition, the ban avoids the slippery slope that leads to NWP.

agree that banning of druff is terrible

Apparently-random deletions and bannings are a hallmark of 2p2 -- I've never seen any other internet forum that featured so many. But this is disturbing news, if it's true. Maybe the deletions aren't so random? Deletion of Brandi crap I can understand (though it's interesting that some of those threads got locked, but not deleted -- so much for worrying about how NVG reflects on the publishing business... Banning of posters who stir up crap -- OK, maybe. But deletion of a thread about the biggest scandal to hit internet poker in, um, ever?

I wonder whether 2p2 will be getting a new sponsor soon...

I vote that if Druff agrees to post pics of his girl's ridiculously huge cans, he gets to come back.

I like how Mat Sklansky posts a very legitimate sounding reason for Druff's ban, and 3 more posters completely ignore it.

Hi Bob:

Two Plus Two is a company that is built on top quality material and a high standard of ethics. We also believe in treating people well, and this includes our authors, but do not want to be associated in any way with demeaning practices and/or with people whose goals include the destruction of the reputations of others for simply the enjoyment of doing so.

And for our website, this means that we encourage vigorous debate and also a little bit of fun. But we do not tolerate insults, and those whose purpose is to demean and attack others reputations for no other reason than that appears to be something they like to do are not welcome here. And this will be the case whether they do it here or someplace else.

And I want to make this very clear. We at Two Plus Two will not support people who may abide by our rules here (when they are posting) but are otherwise despicable in other places on the Internet. We will not allow them to appear to be members in good standing of our community when at the same time they are involved in other practices that violate all our standards of decency towards our fellow persons, and they will not be allowed to promote these other locations in any way on www.twoplustwo.com.

That has been my policy for over twenty years and it is one of the important reasons why we have been very successful. It is also the reason why we are able to operate totally independently of everyone else in our industry and why we are indebted to no one and can't be compromised in any way. And it will stay our policy for as long as I'm the owner of this company.

Best wishes,
Mason

a little banning never hurt anyone.

imo this site just seems a bit ban happy... didnt bother me so much when it was reactive... proactive banning is a bit hmmmmm

Hey Mason....SMOOTHCALL IS AN IDIOT

lol

Mason, as a long-time member of 2+2, for some reason I feel the need to chime in. Your comments about quality material and ethics are all fine and good. However, it has to be said that DS caused a tremendous amount of the problems which resulted in the instant situation. An argument could be made that DS is entirely at fault. There is simply no doubt that he encouraged and promoted the ridiculous, damaging comments and discussions that have become commonplace on 2+2 NVG.

All of the attention and whatever else really seemed to excite DS and, for lack of a better phrase, "turn him on," and I hope that the powers that be realize this. He really did exploit the situation for whatever financial, prurient, or other motivations he may have had.

TSP

sklansky caused the trolling of this site a hell of a lot more than druff ever could. get real. druff's banning is b.s. and you know it. are you guys becoming freakin' pocket 5s over here?