Isn't everyone losing at 1k on GG because of the rake? so -3bb / 100 is actually pretty good.

Not everyone is losing, and most guys are in breakeven to -2bb/100 range.

Regs realizing in 2024 that luck is a bigger factor than anyone cared to admit wasn't on my bingo card

So Mrbuilderman confirmed goat?

builderman and cam couch are definitely goats of midstakes on GG. really the only guys who have put in crazy volume and still winning pre-rb.

Sure. I’m actually playing 10/20 right now and trying to move up to 25/50 so I’m speaking from first hand experience. The difference is night and day. At 5/10 and 10/20 regs tend to play “solid” across the board. On the outside it seems as if everyone plays close to gto. Nobody makes any major mistakes however their games are all inherently predictable and lack a certain creativity and aggression. This makes all those regs quite unbalanced in specific spots and gives opportunity for clear exploits. Even when they are “tricky” they are predictable in the way they mix their ranges. Solvers have made it seem like beating poker is mostly about replicating GTO which is not that difficult and anyone can do. This won’t get you beyond 5/10. To beat higher stakes is all about exploits.

At 25/50 essentially everyone has a certain killer instinct and aggression. While there are still exploits to be made whenever I go to far out of range and attempt to capitalise on a read it backfires and I get punished for it. Regs are genuinely unpredictable, creative and aggressive. While the difference in winrates between a 10/20 and a 25/50 reg might not be that impressive the extra skill needed for that last 2-3bb/100 is insane and the largest skill gap between any of the stakes in poker.

If you read interviews with the greats like Linus or there is a really good podcast with d.apollo777 they all say the same: 25/50 was a beast to break into and they struggled for a long time before they succeeded. It has always been this way by the way. The only people that claim this difference is small are those that have never actually beat 25/50.

5k-20k regbattles happen every single day on ACR

so bitb confirmed goat?

yeah think me and urubu were talking about plo dont think there is 6 tables of 4handed games running everyday but I might stand to be corrected there too

If have to choose which is the hardest move up, i agree 10/20 to 25/50 it’s the hardest move up.

Btw when I said 1/2 level is similar to 100/200 i was talking average regs

I do think there’s a huge skill gap between legends like Linus, berri sweet and others high stakes end bosses. But I truly think 1/2 reg is similar skill level to 100/200 reg who plays with table selection.

Ps: take all I said with grain of salt, it’s been a while i don’t play poker. And maybe what you say is correct because I never was 25/50+ reg lol.

Hahahaha good one !

Remember back in the day plo players were considered wild and fearless because game has huge variance etc

In fact plo regs are the biggest nits ever.

players know im cracked they call me builder mr builderman

bitb my goat cameron couch my man he plays much tougher games than me

Talking about this i remember when I was moving up NL HU stakes which happened to be in the time frame, same pace as jungleman ( I’m bragging ofc ) We played each other at 2/4, 3/6, 5/10 and 10/20 ftp and then a bit stars too. He prob doesn’t even remember me, wasn’t any special matchs, just sit and play

Meanwhile jungleman goes to 25/50 on ftp… vs everyone. Sauce1234, all very strong regs, you name it.

In a few weeks spam every time opening ftp 25/50 lobby had at least four tables running. Always jungleman vs regs.

This ****ery won’t last long, I used to think. I was correct, he stop playing 25/50 … guess what ? He goes 50/100 lol. And then 100/200, 200/400, 300/600…

He wasn’t even opening tables waiting for fishs while four tabling regs. I bet jungleman never played 25/50+ vs fish. Dude was a shark hunter.

Imo jungleman career is the best poker career of all time. Or at very least the hardest/toughest career ! Durrrr, Linus and other legends also had great epic carrer but they played fishs from 10/20 up to 500/1k .

Jungleman did beat EVERY reg who was willing to play him. His ptr page was beautiful.

I see community respect jungleman a lot but I don’t think people realize what he really did.

Thanks for insight, it’s really interesting. btw on GG 5/10 is the last stop for regular tables and 10/20 is in VIP games section where not many tables are running so to put a lot of volume only possible at 5/10. to compare how many tables are running for 5/10 and for 10/20+ the difference is huge but skill gap can be the same?

About certain killer instinct and aggression in 25/50, like they have accurate feel where they stand in a hand? Or they do homework and study database of hands vs players they play so their exploits are next level? Like they may suddenly bluff shove river in a big pot that they feel it’s the only way to win? which same play you would never face in your regular 10/20 games for example?

btw the greats like linus malinowski etc they don’t play much on 25/50, they play strictly 100/200+ so jump must be also insane between 25/50 and 100/200? Because those greats are real killers and they had to beat 25/50 to be where they are now.

I just can confirm that for plo. The 6max lineups posted here are so good, that any 1/2 reg would beat it.

I do have a pretty huge sample of 5k and a lot of reg batteling, and a decent winrate. I still think Berri is beating me with a higher rate than I would beat a 1/2 reg. So imo the gap between the best on each stakes is getting bigger, if you are playing like 99% of regs and choosing the lineups, the gap becomes marginal when you move up the stakes.

The actual money swings are also a huge factor and I personally can‘t deal that good with that like most of my peers.

this has been confirmed for many many years

maybe tuti is the goat seeing he has 0bb with no game selection

Kakitee has a very dry and funny way of explaining his hands! https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CVyjrvtsyY4 Must be an aussie thing?

CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §100/§200 (§75 ante) - 6 players
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KaskaGrrossa (UTG): §56,348.80 (282 bb)
samjazzykins (MP): §51,546.70 (258 bb)
daBOAT (CO): §20,000 (100 bb)
mrfunkyfresh (BU): §19,275 (96 bb)
Get0verHere (SB): §33,159.10 (166 bb)
KakiTee (BB): §26,241.50 (131 bb)

Pre-Flop: (§750)
1 fold, samjazzykins (MP) raises to §700, 1 fold, mrfunkyfresh (BU) 3-bets to §2,400, 1 fold, KakiTee (BB) calls §2,200, samjazzykins (MP) calls §1,700

Flop: (§7,750) 9 8 K (3 players)
KakiTee (BB) bets §3,750, samjazzykins (MP) calls §3,750, mrfunkyfresh (BU) folds

Turn: (§15,250) 2 (2 players)
KakiTee (BB) bets §15,000, samjazzykins (MP) raises to §45,321.70 (all-in), KakiTee (BB) calls §5,016.54

River: (§55,283.08) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: §55,283.08 (Rake: §249.98)

Showdown:
samjazzykins (MP) shows Q K T J (three of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 51%, Turn: 40%, River: 100%)

KakiTee (BB) shows T T 8 9 (two pair, Kings and Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 45%, Flop: 49%, Turn: 60%, River: 0%)

samjazzykins (MP) wins §55,033.10

CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §100/§200 (§75 ante) - 7 players
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samjazzykins (UTG): §54,776.30 (274 bb)
daBOAT (MP): §20,000 (100 bb)
mrfunkyfresh (MP+1): §7,316.54 (37 bb)
Get0verHere (CO): §28,916.50 (145 bb)
Likeurcoins (BU): §18,785.80 (94 bb)
KakiTee (SB): §18,963 (95 bb)
KaskaGrrossa (BB): §35,586.50 (178 bb)

Pre-Flop: (§825)
samjazzykins (UTG) calls §200, 2 players fold, Get0verHere (CO) calls §200, Likeurcoins (BU) calls §200, KakiTee (SB) calls §100, KaskaGrrossa (BB) checks

Flop: (§1,525) 3 3 K (5 players)
KakiTee (SB) checks, KaskaGrrossa (BB) checks, samjazzykins (UTG) checks, Get0verHere (CO) checks, Likeurcoins (BU) checks

Turn: (§1,525) K (5 players)
KakiTee (SB) checks, KaskaGrrossa (BB) checks, samjazzykins (UTG) checks, Get0verHere (CO) checks, Likeurcoins (BU) checks

River: (§1,525) J (5 players)
KakiTee (SB) bets §1,028.62, KaskaGrrossa (BB) raises to §4,534.61, 3 players fold, KakiTee (SB) raises to §15,052.60, KaskaGrrossa (BB) raises to §35,311.51, KakiTee (SB) calls §3,635.46

Total pot: §38,901.12 (Rake: §250.02)

Showdown:
KaskaGrrossa (BB) shows T 4 K K (four of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 65%, Flop: 5%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

KakiTee (SB) shows 3 3 T 9 (four of a kind, Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 35%, Flop: 95%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

KaskaGrrossa (BB) wins §38,651.10

CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §100/§200 (§75 ante) - 7 players
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Likeurcoins (UTG): §19,710.80 (99 bb)
KakiTee (MP): §31,994.50 (160 bb)
KaskaGrrossa (MP+1): §36,011.50 (180 bb)
samjazzykins (CO): §35,652.30 (178 bb)
daBOAT (BU): §20,000 (100 bb)
mrfunkyfresh (SB): §13,034 (65 bb)
Get0verHere (BB): §27,732.80 (139 bb)

Pre-Flop: (§825)
1 fold, KakiTee (MP) calls §200, KaskaGrrossa (MP+1) calls §200, samjazzykins (CO) calls §200, 2 players fold, Get0verHere (BB) checks

Flop: (§1,425) K 5 2 (4 players)
Get0verHere (BB) checks, KakiTee (MP) checks, KaskaGrrossa (MP+1) checks, samjazzykins (CO) bets §676.87, Get0verHere (BB) folds, KakiTee (MP) calls §676.87, KaskaGrrossa (MP+1) folds

Turn: (§2,778.74) Q (2 players)
KakiTee (MP) checks, samjazzykins (CO) bets §2,200, KakiTee (MP) raises to §9,239.80, samjazzykins (CO) calls §7,039.80

River: (§21,258.34) 8 (2 players)
KakiTee (MP) checks, samjazzykins (CO) bets §8,457.28, KakiTee (MP) calls §8,457.28

Total pot: §38,172.90 (Rake: §250)

Showdown:
samjazzykins (CO) shows T T 8 A (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 45%, Flop: 24%, Turn: 20%, River: 100%)

KakiTee (MP) shows 6 Q Q 4 (a flush, King high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 76%, Turn: 80%, River: 0%)

samjazzykins (CO) wins §37,922.90

CoinPoker, Hold'em No Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 7 players
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livinmydream (UTG): §6,306.10 (126 bb)
MorbidAura (MP): §9,654.62 (193 bb)
Bitcoinboi (MP+1): §4,745.11 (95 bb)
udjh (CO): §11,872.70 (237 bb)
GazzyB123 (BU): §6,360.95 (127 bb)
RaphDarko (SB): §10,313.40 (206 bb)
samjazzykins (BB): §5,443 (109 bb)

Pre-Flop: (§145)
livinmydream (UTG) raises to §125, 3 players fold, GazzyB123 (BU) calls §125, 1 fold, samjazzykins (BB) 3-bets to §595, 1 fold, GazzyB123 (BU) calls §470

Flop: (§1,410) 7 Q 4 (2 players)
samjazzykins (BB) bets §450, GazzyB123 (BU) calls §450

Turn: (§2,310) 3 (2 players)
samjazzykins (BB) bets §1,050, GazzyB123 (BU) raises to §5,305.95 (all-in), samjazzykins (BB) calls §3,338 (all-in)

River: (§11,086) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: §11,086 (Rake: §12)

Showdown:
GazzyB123 (BU) shows 6 5 (a straight, Three to Seven)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 45%, Flop: 30%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

samjazzykins (BB) shows J 2 (a flush, Queen high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 70%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

samjazzykins (BB) wins §11,074

CoinPoker, Hold'em No Limit - §25/§50 (§10 ante) - 6 players
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udjh (UTG): §18,531.50 (371 bb)
GazzyB123 (MP): §5,000 (100 bb)
RaphDarko (CO): §11,992.80 (240 bb)
samjazzykins (BU): §6,850.28 (137 bb)
MorbidAura (SB): §5,879.73 (118 bb)
Bitcoinboi (BB): §8,757.91 (175 bb)

Pre-Flop: (§135)
2 players fold, RaphDarko (CO) raises to §125, samjazzykins (BU) 3-bets to §510, 2 players fold, RaphDarko (CO) calls §385

Flop: (§1,155) 9 K J (2 players)
RaphDarko (CO) checks, samjazzykins (BU) bets §571.50, RaphDarko (CO) calls §571.50

Turn: (§2,298) 4 (2 players)
RaphDarko (CO) checks, samjazzykins (BU) bets §1,143, RaphDarko (CO) calls §1,143

River: (§4,584) 3 (2 players)
RaphDarko (CO) checks, samjazzykins (BU) bets §4,615.78 (all-in), RaphDarko (CO) calls §4,615.78

Total pot: §13,815.56 (Rake: §11.96)

Showdown:
samjazzykins (BU) shows T 5 (high card, King)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

RaphDarko (CO) shows T J (a pair of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

RaphDarko (CO) wins §13,803.60

CoinPoker, Omaha Pot Limit - §100/§200 (§75 ante) - 7 players
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Get0verHere (UTG): §29,944.70 (150 bb)
KaskaGrrossa (MP): §22,783.20 (114 bb)
KakiTee (MP+1): §33,651.60 (168 bb)
Likeurcoins (CO): §56,014.20 (280 bb)
mrfunkyfresh (BU): §31,750.90 (159 bb)
omaha4rollz (SB): §20,000 (100 bb)
samjazzykins (BB): §42,503.80 (213 bb)

Pre-Flop: (§825)
4 players fold, mrfunkyfresh (BU) raises to §700, omaha4rollz (SB) 3-bets to §2,300, 1 fold, mrfunkyfresh (BU) 4-bets to §7,100, omaha4rollz (SB) calls §4,800

Flop: (§14,925) K Q 9 (2 players)
omaha4rollz (SB) checks, mrfunkyfresh (BU) bets §14,675, omaha4rollz (SB) calls §12,825 (all-in)

Turn: (§40,575) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (§40,575) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: §40,575 (Rake: §250)

Showdown:
mrfunkyfresh (BU) shows A A 8 8 (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 63%, Flop: 47%, Turn: 90%, River: 100%)

omaha4rollz (SB) shows K 9 T 7 (a flush, Queen high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 37%, Flop: 53%, Turn: 10%, River: 0%)

mrfunkyfresh (BU) wins §40,325