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10-30-2017 , 10:37 AM

#26

ligastar

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this thread should be locked and chainsaw's account should be suspended.

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10-30-2017 , 10:41 AM

#27

ChicagoJoey

Papi

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Pot Limit Omaha was made for you

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10-30-2017 , 10:48 AM

#28

madlex

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Originally Posted by SageDonkey

I did a very quick addition of his buy ins on Hendon Mob cashes which are ~640K.

Assuming the comps he's cashed in are a good representative sample of his career buy in patterns and he has cashed in 1 in 5 comps he's played in then it looks like he is a small winner (~250K) over the course of his live MTT career, or applying some margin of error, between -5% and +15% ROI.

This assumes no re-buys and no selling of equity at a mark up and doesn't account for travel expenses etc, or obviously cash games.

You obviously have no idea how much he made in free buffets..

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10-30-2017 , 11:02 AM

#29

LittleGoliath

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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

Pot Limit Omaha was made for you

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10-30-2017 , 11:51 AM

#30

SkeezinIt

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Originally Posted by SageDonkey

It doesn't scare anyone that the biggest nit grinder in mtt's has only made 250k over a 10+ year career?

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10-30-2017 , 12:05 PM

#31

SageDonkey

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Originally Posted by SkeezinIt

It doesn't scare anyone that the biggest nit grinder in mtt's has only made 250k over a 10+ year career?

I think most people will recognise that to be a winning player with a fairly low +ROI over a biggish sample means that he's likely played too tight a tournament strategy given the very top heavy nature of prize money.

Someone hinted he's an expert at maximising comps/freebies, plus his style of play will win small, steady amounts in most low/mid stakes live cash games so you can't really knock him if he's made a decent living overall.

Possibly he's also had some massive equity spots along the way that went against him, meaning that ~250K could have been $1M.

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10-30-2017 , 12:14 PM

#32

BEANO52

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Surprised this thread hasn't gone "Viral" yet. . .

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10-30-2017 , 01:07 PM

#33

orb_dam_u

old hand

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This guy is playing with 4 cards, isn't that cheating?

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10-30-2017 , 01:21 PM

#34

w00t

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This could be the one.

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10-30-2017 , 01:47 PM

#35

SageDonkey

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3/3 and roughly 30 BBs which is plenty in a PLO comp, €90K+ up top,
so a great chance of increasing his life time ROI by ~3%.

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10-30-2017 , 01:59 PM

#36

squid face

ChatThreadPrez

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 11,477

Kessler in full on beast mode throwing all caution to wind in his attempt to capture his much deserved first bracelet! Keep crushing souls my man

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10-30-2017 , 02:18 PM

#37

ShawnIndy

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Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 429

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Originally Posted by doublejoker

I made my 7th wsop final table. Heres your chance to see how I play tournament Plo with hole cards.

Heres the link to watch wsop europe $2200€ plo bracelet event live stream @PokerroomKings Mon 630am pac; 930am est https://t.co/d7rtSPcvpY

Grats man. No hater here. Grats. ( send me money )

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10-30-2017 , 02:19 PM

#38

vrael111

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Originally Posted by R*R

Once you win, let us know, and I'll merge the threads.

looooolz

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10-30-2017 , 03:21 PM

#39

BEANO52

adept

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Originally Posted by SageDonkey

X/X and roughly XX BBs which is plenty in a PLO comp, €90K+ up top,
so a great chance of increasing his life time ROI by ~3%.

Nice job posting: SPOILER

Leave it to you. . .

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10-30-2017 , 03:21 PM

#40

DrSayre

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Take it down!

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10-30-2017 , 03:47 PM

#41

SageDonkey

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Originally Posted by BEANO52

Nice job posting: SPOILER

Leave it to you. . .

My update was the status straight from the delayed stream, not from Chainsaw's Twitter nor from live time real reporting, so wasn't a spoiler.

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10-30-2017 , 04:44 PM

#42

PTLou

JellyBean

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BOOOOOOM

JACK ON THE RIVER

CHAINSAW RULES !!!

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10-30-2017 , 04:59 PM

#43

AlwaysFolding

Urban Pharmer

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"Kessler, a bit of a legend in American poker circles"

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10-30-2017 , 05:00 PM

#44

w00t

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1/3

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10-30-2017 , 05:03 PM

#45

TrustySam

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Originally Posted by orb_dam_u

This guy is playing with 4 cards, isn't that cheating?

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10-30-2017 , 05:07 PM

#46

Ace upmy Slv

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Why do I find myself rooting for Allen? Very strange feeling that I am unable to come to grips with right now.....

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10-30-2017 , 05:11 PM

#47

AlwaysFolding

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"Tight player like him likes to have some patience and not be forced into spots"

Are we still talking about poker??

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10-30-2017 , 05:35 PM

#48

SageDonkey

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Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding

"Tight player like him likes to have some patience and not be forced into spots"

Are we still talking about poker??

This is correct for a *slow structured* FT (last 2 or 3 tables) of a PLO MTT where ~28BBs is a very comfortable stack, ~18BBs can be nursed okay and playing very cautiously can often be optimal. Typically many other players are making some horrible ICM errors and are generally playing too impatiently.

Been watching the stream on and off today and Chainsaw's excellent understanding of pre-flop play, ICM and laddering have been the main components as to why he's ground a shortish stack to be 1 of 3. The other players are not as skilled/competent in those areas.

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10-30-2017 , 05:50 PM

#49

PTLou

JellyBean

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Cant rem the last time I watched a PLO stream

Joey's right about one thing... it is a great game.

who is doing commentary?

IM clueless on PLO strat, but seems to be really limpy from these final three players. would a little more pre-flop aggression, be a better strategy given just three handed and current table dynamics?

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10-30-2017 , 05:59 PM

#50

Koko the munkey

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That shirt though

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