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01-18-2022 , 12:37 AM

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D0UGHBOY

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These are both within 10 minutes of Legends. 14 million vs 80k.

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01-18-2022 , 12:44 AM

#27

Dream Crusher

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He said it was pretty damn close to the nicer area of Houston which you dispute. However, when I do a real estate map search of Houston for homes costing $1 million or more there are huge areas of Houston with no million dollar homes for sale. However, there are tons of million dollar homes pretty damn close to this poker room.

In fact the vast majority of million dollar homes seem to be on that side of the town. There are a ton to the north, to the northeast. A bunch a little further to the Southeast (but not super far away), and there are some further West too. It appears to be a bad area surrounded by nicer areas.

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01-18-2022 , 12:49 AM

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It doesn't have to be in a rich neighborhood for the rich people to be concerned. 10 minutes is pretty damn close. Here in Dallas the rich people said no dice to a state of the art Walmart with an underground parking garage because they didn't want one a mile away from their neighborhood.

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01-18-2022 , 12:49 AM

#29

D0UGHBOY

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher

Correct but if you need a fortress is it really nice? That’s what I was disputing. Instead of 10 minutes away you could be 15 minutes and not need to have the safety off and 1 in the chamber at all times.

That 14 million dollar house is as secluded as that area gets. The other million dollar houses you drive 45 seconds take a left at the stop sign and you are in a war zone.

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01-18-2022 , 12:53 AM

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Liveidiot

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Always amazes me that a robber like this gets away without being shot down. ”Tough guys”..

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01-18-2022 , 12:54 AM

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D0UGHBOY

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You are right though. The rich people are worried because they are being followed home and robbed at gun point and being killed anyway. Poker room robberies are probably a relief to the rich. Now they don’t have to worry about being followed home from Capital Grille. That’s the type of stuff that worries them

https://abc13.com/devan-jordon-arres...home/11361831/

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01-18-2022 , 12:56 AM

#32

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Originally Posted by Liveidiot

Always amazes me that a robber like this gets away without being shot down. ”Tough guys”..

This isn't the wild west or a TV show. It's a crowded poker room.

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01-18-2022 , 01:06 AM

#33

trob888

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Originally Posted by D0UGHBOY

The rooms are about 15 minutes away from anything even remotely nice. That area is mostly commercial with apartments where there is a significant risk of getting gunned down walking to your car within 5 minutes drive.

Roughly speaking I view anything between Westheimer and I-10 as a nicer area out that way, and this room is just south of Westheimer. Yea it’s still not great on that southern edge but there’s definitely a ton of nice places within 5 minutes, let alone 15.

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01-18-2022 , 01:16 AM

#34

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Originally Posted by trob888

I’m definitely jaded after seeing all the gunned down / carjacked just off of Westheimer, Richmond, Gessner, Westpark, Wilcrest headlines over the last 2 years. I would think the rich would at least want to be as far away as Bellaire or River Oaks. There are some nicer areas closer but they are surrounded by not so nice areas and it’s only getting worse.

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01-18-2022 , 01:42 AM

#35

trob888

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True, San Felipe (or whatever it turns into) is probably a better cutoff when you get that far west

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01-18-2022 , 02:36 AM

#36

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Originally Posted by fozzy71

The better decision would have been to just shoot the robber if the security guard was armed. If he was unarmed security then it sounds like he did the best he could. Are you suggesting he should have just let him have his way with all the customers?

I heard the robber had a bulletproof vest on so shooting him probably wasn't a great option.

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01-18-2022 , 02:45 AM

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smoothcriminal99

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Shooting a guy with a loaded gun in his hands in a crowded area can’t be a better idea than knocking the gun away from him. Even if you hit him he’s going to shoot back… lots of people in that room that probably get hit in crossfire.

Guy risked his life to try to protect people in a split second situation. Criticizing him is pretty pathetic.

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01-18-2022 , 03:06 AM

#38

smoothcriminal99

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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla

More proof to me that anyone who would bring lots of money to these places, completely unregulated should have their heads examined. This place Legends for example? The owner has a real shady past. Imagine coming down to play a big tournament there and you win 6 figures and have no ties to Texas. You want the cash, someone from this card room alerts his buddy in the local police, they end up pulling his rental car over and finding some BS to confiscate the cash.

My point is not only do you have to be damn careful and concerned playing high stakes in clubs like this, but also worry about the people running the place and the ability to work with the local law enforcement to steal your money.

I think civil forfeiture laws are pretty awful in the us but to insinuate a cop would confiscate funds which are clearly documented with a w2g is idiotic

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01-18-2022 , 03:23 AM

#39

Wilbury Twist

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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla

This is someone's recent review of Legends I thought I would post, pretty much sums up this thread:

Players have been followed to be robbed.
Cars are broken in too.
Park at own risk sign was just posted at the club.
And now just yesterday someone shot up the place.
Why play and support a club that puts you at risk.
Your risking your money and now your life playing at a poker room like this.
Let me guess free time promo coming up.

A small, morbid part of me wants to take that review to some random poetry reading and recite it verbatim. Here's another one from the same site:

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no profesional .
Workers play .
No drinks .
Dealers no good and much more .
I play one hand never say twice and the dealer do .
And much more @#$% 000000000"0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00 its the rate

As for the claim that the owner is "shady," I assume you're referring to the protagonist in this next number. I need a drummer and a sax player to accompany this one:

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I went here Legend to play Plo 1/3 in the morning last week.
Soon I walked an Skinny Shady old Asian guy gave Signal all sudden ...
There are 4 more Asian guy plus himself sat down...
they start a new table...
Later I found down that Old Shady Asian guy name David and the rest is his house Players.....
During the hand they only checking down and Speak other language beside English.
Unless I'm involved in the Pot.
All poker players need to be careful with this club
Nothing is Free here.
It's all ILLUSIONAL at this Club.
This Club will Cheated all of our Hard earn $$$$$$$$$$$

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01-18-2022 , 03:25 AM

#40

narcoleptix

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Originally Posted by smoothcriminal99

I would guess that if you can get close enough to tackle an armed gunman then you usually have the drop on him and can execute him point blank.

In any case, I was just interested in hearing what people thought. I don't have a strong opinion either way so you don't have to take it so personal.

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01-18-2022 , 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by fozzy71

If a security guard discharges his pistol, he ultimately has to live with any loss of life of bystanders should he not have a clear line of sight.

It's money at the end of the day.

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01-18-2022 , 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RareBearMemeShaman

If a security guard discharges his pistol, he ultimately has to live with any loss of life of bystanders should he not have a clear line of sight.

It's money at the end of the day.

Yeah, ideally you want the security guard to not care about the lives of the people he's protecting. If it wasn't for the money involved, he would have his mind at ease so as to shoot first and ask questions later.

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01-18-2022 , 11:09 AM

#43

Fore

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Originally Posted by leviathan74

What are you even trying to say?

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01-18-2022 , 11:19 AM

#44

Fore

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Originally Posted by smoothcriminal99

I think civil forfeiture laws are pretty awful in the us but to insinuate a cop would confiscate funds which are clearly documented with a w2g is idiotic

It is a complete strawman. Why would a police buddy choose to lose his job. It is like the confiscating officer gets to personally keep the money. Even if he just skims some, he will quickly get caught.

Now a bad cop, could certainly rob someone but that is a very different situation. It would not even need to be a cop in that case.

CF laws suck imo but it isn’t like 90% of police are daily abusing them.

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01-18-2022 , 11:25 AM

#45

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Originally Posted by Fore

Are you kidding? Cops especially in Republican run states like Texas feel like they are all too powerful. All it takes is a tipoff from someone at this cardroom that someone is leaving with hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash and believe me, that car can be easily pulled over. And you bring out the dog, it "sniffs" a drug scent, and the money is confiscated.

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01-18-2022 , 11:27 AM

#46

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a general rule, especially for large casinos, is to let the robber take the money and leave. They don't want the liability of paying out big settlements for bystanders being shot, it's cheaper to just let them go.

I've been robbed by gunmen twice, just give them the cash, dead soldiers can't fight. I now carry a bait wallet with a mix of ones and fives and expired gift/credit cards in it to toss at robbers, hopefully that will satisfy them and they don't go into my other pockets.

How does the security guard run and tackle a guy with a rifle with giant clanging balls between his legs?

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01-18-2022 , 12:10 PM

#47

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Originally Posted by smoothcriminal99

Guy risked his life to try to protect people in a split second situation. Criticizing him is pretty pathetic.

Well, you're in luck, nobody in this thread did criticize him. You do have some morons like fozzy though who have the reading comprehension of a brick.

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01-18-2022 , 12:28 PM

#48

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Trying to wrestle the gun away from a gunman didn't work too good for this security guard in the Bally's Las Vegas shooting 7 or 8 years ago.

"When Brown, 40, saw Frazier shoot two Bally’s security guards, Robert Farias and Anthony Guerrero, Brown jumped on the man’s back and wrestled for the gun, according to police.

Brown, who recently moved to Las Vegas from Los Angeles and worked as a club promoter and stand-up comedian, was fatally shot in the neck and upper chest.

Both guards were expected to survive."

https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/b...-that-morning/

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01-18-2022 , 12:41 PM

#49

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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla

Ok but what does the cop get out of it? Like...he doesn't get to keep the money. His accomplice doesn't get to keep the money. The cardroom doesn't get to keep the money. It just vanishes from the poker ecosystem. So what's the point?

also, can't believe this thread has no mention of barking iron