Can tell by this post you are a super scumbag. You one of those people who say "they were asking for it" when they get raped lol.


So when eli wins in said game in your scenario he should pay back cts double right? scumbag

The smug way he says it too. "Me staked by rich Israeli guy!" "Hahahha can you believe me found another sucker!!!!"

But we can speculate. Here's one theory. CTS said that he and Eli played a lot against each other the summer of 2010 and generally got along well. Toward the end of their playing that summer Eli borrowed the 100k from cts. My theory is that cts won a good chunk off Eli, maybe something like 250,000 (just guessing). My theory is that during this period Eli (either consciously or unconsciously) realized that Cole was a superior player to him and that it was very unlikely he would ever outplay Cole to get his money back. Obviously Eli (like most players) did not take kindly to being outplayed by cts for 250,000 of his money and was determined to make him pay for costing him so much. He then borrowed the money consciously or unconsciously with the intent of making things difficult for cts over the coming months and years. Thus he was paying him back for the financial hit that cts caused him in the only way he could. Once again this is all just theory and might be wrong. But since Eli might not return all we can do at this point is speculate.

I guess if you are creative enough you could come up with thousands of reasons why it’s ok to steal money from someone and then lie about it.

Sadly I don't think Mason is troubled by any of this. He appears in this thread from time to time posting weird irrelevant drivel that most people don't care about. He isn't addressing any of the shadiness that Eli has been accused of and frankly it's disappointing. Eli is a proven liar and scammer and Mason should already be talking with him to come back in this thread and answer the hard questions about his lies.

Again based on what has transpired here who in their right mind would spend money and buy a copy of this book? Especially not even sure what is in it is true!!

You really don’t get it do you? Can you come up with thousands of reasons why it’s ok to lend a broke gambler money that you are a big favourite to win back yourself?

This was 2010 , how do u know anyone was broke?
They were playing like 100k min buy in, it was normal in those games to lend others money, u can’t just go to atm withdraw money, he found out later from others that it wasn’t a good idea bc apparently he didn’t pay others back which made him concerned,

You usually bash pro poker players who borrow money

Do you feel it should of just been a gift since hes better at poker?

You are right. We can choose to frequent a forum that promotes the livelihood of thieves or not.

And predators.

There’s a good reason banks won’t lend money for gambling or investments.

Lol love this

How on earth did mason/whoever was involved in the decision process think this thread would ever go any other way than it currently is? The deeb story was the first thing I thought of when I seen the title. Even if they weren’t aware of the story a simple forum search would have lead them to enough evidence that this was a terrible idea.

Unless ofc it’s some reverse play, let the thread blow up and get enough people talking about it. If so WP.

Was one of the biggest ‘wtf’ moments I’ve had in poker when someone told me he was a professional. Shocker that the guy playing short handed vrs Ivey, Antonious and Dwan for hundreds of thousands in a game he was obviously complete balls at had to pull some shifty moves to stay in action.

I’m literally boarding a plane to Vegas to bet the SB, but getting some monkey tilt $$where ever EE is playing would be nice. EE, if u drop back by, I will play u HU at the Bellagio. I land ~ 2:00 pm and may need a lil nap. Shall we say 8;00 pm ?

[QUOTE=IhateJJ;54742955]If the story is as it seems, then Eli should be outted for being the deadbeat that he is. But let’s put the whole incident in perspective.

A degenerate gambler (Eli) runs out of available money in a poker session. A superior player (CTS) is in proximity to the degen and is aware of his plight. The superior player loans $100K to the degen so the degen can continue to gamble, and does so without doing any due diligence as to the degens ability to repay the loan.

So before we all let our moral outrage over this unpaid loan boil over, let’s reframe the incident.

A drug addict runs out of crack. A nice, clean cut guy is in proximity to the crack addict and is aware of his plight. The clean cut guy loans a couple grams of crack to the addict so the addict can continue to get high, and does so without doing any due diligence as to the addict’s ability to repay the crack.

Is there really that much of a difference in these scenarios? Would we feel as badly for the clean cut guy who loaned the addict some crack if he didn’t get that crack back as we do for CTS getting stiffed by Eli? Probably not, but maybe we should. Or more aptly put, we should feel about as bad for CTS as we do for the clean cut guy getting stiffed by the addict.

CTS is certainly entitled to his own moral code about loaning money to broke gambling addicts, but let’s not shed too many tears when the loans don’t get paid.

TLDR: know your customer (and don’t feel too bad for the pusher man)[/QUOTE

Well, obviously u didn’t run out or need to borrow any crack ...

Casinos issue credit lines every minute of every day . Banks issue CCs. It’s called business.

Did u not read where Eli has won every year?

I hope Cole has been juicing the $40k for the 9 years. It has to be nearing $50k.

I'd love to hear you elaborate on this at some point, Mat.

When you say "if a mistake was made here," who do you think made it? And what was the mistake exactly—agreeing to publish a book without vetting the author more carefully? Or setting up this AMA without realizing it would blow up in both the author's and the publisher's faces?

The thing that disappoints me the most in all of this is that Eli is clearly no writer. He hasn't answered a single question in a thoughtful or insightful or entertaining manner. He hasn't told any stories at all, not about the world of high-stakes poker and not about his life before he entered that world. Saying "I wrote about this in the book" doesn't give us any taste of what the book is actually like. Saying something like "That's too long a story to tell; ask me sometime when you see me in person" is simply a copout.

I read the excerpt in Two Plus Two Magazine, and I wasn't impressed. It reminded me of Mike Matusow's book (what a waste of money that one was): A colorful character who was on TV a lot during the poker boom decides to cash in on his minor celebrity by telling some self-serving stories to a couple of coauthors (interesting that they both needed two coauthors), who then compile and polish these oral reminiscences into a "book."

So, Eli, why'd you write the book? What did you hope to achieve? Was it your idea or someone else's? What was your working relationship with your coauthors? Did they interview and/or record you, or did you actually type up rough drafts or what? What about with your translator? Given that the book was originally published in Hebrew, I assume it was written with an Israeli audience in mind; did you alter the content or tone of the English version in any way to appeal more to an American audience?

Of course, on the basis of this thread, I don't expect you to answer any of these questions. But they are legitimate questions that a reader or prospective reader might ask an author.

this

bump should just be banned at this point, every post is just railing on poker players for some odd reason

imagine hating poker players and spending your time on a forum for poker players, fun life you got there bump

Calling CTS a scammer is not only dumb and wrong, it's also completely irrelevant since there's basically 0 % chance CTS is the only person Eli has unpaid debts to.

bumpnrun is a horrible troll even for NVG standards.

Eli I have a few questions:

What is your favorite color?

How many times should one make excuses before ghosting someone they've scammed?

What is your favorite movie?

What sort of understanding could you have of a 100k loan where you wouldn't have to pay back 100k?

What is your favorite food?

Do you understand how guilty your refusal to address CTs' accusation makes you look?

Boxers or briefs?

Did you really think anyone here would believe you're a winning high stakes poker player?

The guy is publishing a ****ing poker book, how much weaker of a player do you thinks Eli considers himself? Also, how does that excuse him from paying back a loan in any context?

Eli has never had a losing year by his own admission, correct ? How is lending him predatory?

This. And he never lies so we know it's true.

its been many years, how did cts scam isildur again? sharing hh's? 99% of online poker players have shared or bought hhs in the past. who cares

I was going to post similar response. The degen doesn’t think he has to pay cause he lost so much, like a buyout with a bookie.

I hope I see him in Vegas the next couple days.