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Armed robbery in north Houston poker room. Armed robbery in north Houston poker room.

07-22-2023 , 07:54 AM
The three biggest private employers in North America are Walmart, Amazon, and a security firm you’ve maybe never heard of: Allied Universal. Time’s Alana Semuels explains the rise of poorly trained and poorly paid private security guards across America.

https://www.stitcher.com/show/today-...tion-304839494

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In reality, the region the Big Apple comprises most of is far and away the safest part of the U.S. mainland when it comes to gun violence, while the regions Florida and Texas belong to have per capita firearm death rates (homicides and suicides) three to four times higher than New York’s. On a regional basis it’s the southern swath of the country — in cities and rural areas alike — where the rate of deadly gun violence is most acute, regions where Republicans have dominated state governments for decades.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...lence-00092413

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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
A year or so ago I talked to a police officer who was working as an off duty security officer in my city and he said there is an app where companies can hire security personnel and each offers a different salary. Without me asking he said what the range of pay was and I remember thinking it was more than I thought. If I remember correctly all the jobs were over $50/hr, but maybe I’m misremembering. This guy was working a church picnic that had 8 blackjack or beat the dealer type games.

He was black, but I don’t know if his name was Jackson. Evidently that is relevant to some itt.
according to the pod i posted, none of these mall cops are making more than $20/hr

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related: guns are the leading cause of death for US children and teens, since surpassing car accidents in 2020

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/29/healt...-dg/index.html

US federal institutions desire better gun violence data to assist in combating this deadly scourge decimating the youngest and most vulnerable among us. but Republicans have fought tooth and nail against these efforts (collecting better gun violence data) for decades. it's cruel and evil in intent but unfortunately on brand

that said, i'm assuming this incident in HOU didn't involve any minors being that it occurred in a place of gambling
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07-22-2023 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
No one is talking about Illinois as a whole as its irrelevant to the thread. Its about running a poker room in a larger city.

Chicago is a shithole (and democrat since you keep bringing up politics). https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/il/chicago/crime


If you want to compare cities, we can but there's no point. All conservative states and cities are more violent, more poor, and less educated. If you want to use neighborhoodscout to compare relevant data, you can look at Houston versus your boogie man of Chicago. Houston is ~50% more violent with a rate of 12.4 versus the "shithole" with 8.7.
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07-22-2023 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by L0LWAT
If you want to compare cities, we can but there's no point. All conservative states and cities are more violent, more poor, and less educated. If you want to use neighborhoodscout to compare relevant data, you can look at Houston versus your boogie man of Chicago. Houston is ~50% more violent with a rate of 12.4 versus the "shithole" with 8.7.
Go to the politics thread with your brain rot. No one was talking about politics in this thread.

Houston has been democrat forever too btw. Find me some republican cities with higher violent crime rates.
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07-22-2023 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
This is so blatantly false I have to wonder why you choose to post it.
I was trying to help you learn because you seem mistaken. I agree it's off topic and have no interest in hitting down.
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07-22-2023 , 08:35 AM
He clearly said that Chicago has lower crime rates than entire southern states as a whole, not isolated cities like Houston. Which is false. But anyways, agree its off topic at this point.
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07-22-2023 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
A year or so ago I talked to a police officer who was working as an off duty security officer in my city and he said there is an app where companies can hire security personnel and each offers a different salary. Without me asking he said what the range of pay was and I remember thinking it was more than I thought. If I remember correctly all the jobs were over $50/hr, but maybe I’m misremembering. This guy was working a church picnic that had 8 blackjack or beat the dealer type games.

He was black, but I don’t know if his name was Jackson. Evidently that is relevant to some itt.
Yes, if your security guards are off-duty cops, no way are those guys getting out of bed for $15 an hour.
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07-22-2023 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
He clearly said that Chicago has lower crime rates than entire southern states as a whole, not isolated cities like Houston. Which is false. But anyways, agree its off topic at this point.
Yeah, we were talking big cities vs rural/suburban areas. They’re so blinded by their political affiliation, they can’t see straight or stay on topic. They’re literally brainwashed and use blatant lies/manipulation to twist the actual argument into something it isn’t. It’s intellectual dishonesty at its finest and it’s pathetic.

Even the first article posted as “evidence” that I was wrong was referring to safety including accidents and drownings. Not just crime.

Then clown #2 and #3 show up with their bizarre political posts comparing states rather than cities vs rural/suburban areas. Anything to lie and twist facts to make a nonsense distorted political point when the topic wasn’t/isn’t even political to begin with. It’s sad.
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07-22-2023 , 11:50 AM
Am I in the politics forum or NVG? I forget
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07-22-2023 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
Yeah, we were talking big cities vs rural/suburban areas. They’re so blinded by their political affiliation, they can’t see straight or stay on topic. They’re literally brainwashed and use blatant lies/manipulation to twist the actual argument into something it isn’t. It’s intellectual dishonesty at its finest and it’s pathetic.

Even the first article posted as “evidence” that I was wrong was referring to safety including accidents and drownings. Not just crime.

Then clown #2 and #3 show up with their bizarre political posts comparing states rather than cities vs rural/suburban areas. Anything to lie and twist facts to make a nonsense distorted political point when the topic wasn’t/isn’t even political to begin with. It’s sad.
Texas card rooms operate without regulation, right? If they were regulated this might not happen, but robberies still occur at regulated casinos.

As far as I can tell no one lied, we all just kinda spoke past one another.
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07-22-2023 , 12:58 PM
Shouldn’t security guard jobs like this be structured around a low hourly and a significant payout in the event of a life threatening incident? I don’t mean medical bills covered. I mean hard cash 10k+ for actively responding to a threat. As part of the compensation structure.
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07-22-2023 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
Yeah, we were talking big cities vs rural/suburban areas.
The states with the highest homicide rates per capita in the United States are Louisiana and Mississippi. New York has one of the lowest. Clearly, then, murder is not a problem peculiar to cities, as the former two states have urban populations that are relatively very small. The same can be said for poverty, which is a rural as well as an urban problem.

In and of itself, this is epidemiology and not politics.

Last edited by namisgr11; 07-22-2023 at 01:10 PM.
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07-22-2023 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by L0LWAT
Chicago and New York are safer than they've ever been. Chicago is in Illinois which has a lower violent crime rate than Montana. It's not super easy to find granular data, but states dictate policy and Republican led states suffer.
Lmao@ thinking NYC is safer than precovid
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07-22-2023 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
Shouldn’t security guard jobs like this be structured around a low hourly and a significant payout in the event of a life threatening incident? I don’t mean medical bills covered. I mean hard cash 10k+ for actively responding to a threat. As part of the compensation structure.
Unfortunately, that opens the door to conspiracy to commit fraud between security and robbers.
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07-22-2023 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Lmao@ thinking NYC is safer than precovid
I've read about data suggesting robberies are up so far this year, but the murder rate across the country is down.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...stics/674290/#
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07-22-2023 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by namisgr11
Unfortunately, that opens the door to conspiracy to commit fraud between security and robbers.
Ok but everything has a cost and a risk. The payout would have to be low enough to not overly encourage collusion, maybe 5k?
Not to even get into how difficult it is to stage a convincing robbery involving multiple individuals in a public place. Fake robbers walk in with fake guns, draw them at a fake security guard, who pulls his gun, robbers run away, security goes to the cage to collect payout? Lol
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07-22-2023 , 04:41 PM
Well to be fair, it is Texas so even if it was a staged robbery the guns are still likely to be real
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07-22-2023 , 11:05 PM
As noted above, the security guard is employed by God's Armour Security (https://godsarmoursecurity.com/). The phone number is (713) 878-9984. The CEO is Tommy Wilson. Perhaps you can find out updates on Jackson's condition, maybe info on what financial burden he faces because of this incident, and whether or not there is a crowdfund where people can donate. In since you're also the person with direct experience in law enforcement, perhaps you can best advise Mr. Wilson on better protocols and procedures that will prevent security officers from finding themselves in similar situations.

Done. Waiting to hear from them. And I thank you for the link.

Bageled
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07-22-2023 , 11:13 PM
perhaps you can best advise Mr. Wilson on better protocols and procedures that will prevent security officers from finding themselves in similar situations.

Security Officers DON’T receive the same training as Law Enforcement. Just like Poker Players DON’T receive the same training from actual Pros.

Security Officers are hired for MUCH less than ANY LE in this country, so once again you don’t know what you are talking about Mr Wilburry.

Your argument is about as smart as you are.

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07-22-2023 , 11:35 PM
In since you're also the person with direct experience in law enforcement, perhaps you can best advise Mr. Wilson on better protocols and procedures that will prevent security officers from finding themselves in similar situations.

You OBVIOUSLY don’t know what you’re spewing.

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07-22-2023 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
Shouldn’t security guard jobs like this be structured around a low hourly and a significant payout in the event of a life threatening incident? I don’t mean medical bills covered. I mean hard cash 10k+ for actively responding to a threat. As part of the compensation structure.

Certainly a way to guarantee a lot of "life threatening incidents" if I can pay an addict $1K or less to create the "threat" and I get $10K for dealing with it. You get what you pay for.
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07-23-2023 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Polarbear1955
Certainly a way to guarantee a lot of "life threatening incidents" if I can pay an addict $1K or less to create the "threat" and I get $10K for dealing with it. You get what you pay for.
haha
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07-23-2023 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DizzyG
Bless your heart
FYI, "bless your heart" is Texan for "you're an idiot"
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07-23-2023 , 10:37 AM
I typed "robbery" into the Houston Police Dept.'s crime statistics spread sheet for Jan. - July 2023 available here http://https://www.houstontx.gov/pol...olice_Beat.htm

and got 3,600 hits

"weapon law violations" I got 1,680 hits

"aggravated assault" (as opposed to "simple assault" I got 6,800 hits (thats @ 34 aggravated assaults per day) (Aggravated Assault. The Texas Penal Code (Sec 22.02) states that an assault is “aggravated” if one or both of the following is true: The assault caused serious bodily injury. Examples include broken bones, scarring, or permanent disability.)

Houston is one of the most crime-ridden cities in the US. This horrific shooting unfortunately barely makes a blip on the radar

My advice: don't take a seat with your back to the door in H-town
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07-23-2023 , 04:46 PM
Ofc Jackson deserves the Medal of Honor he was shot 7 times and the 4 perps ran away with their tails between their legs he also manage to walk into TCH and tell everyone the threat was neutralized and it’s safe He protected everyone in that building with his life and has had surgery and several months of therapy ahead of him due to a group of losers who I’m very close to finding out who they are

That was the e-mail response I received. Yes, I did show him/her my post from 2+2 . I can ASSUME from the email that the grammar is the same as a police report NOT. Spin it however you want.

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07-23-2023 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
According to the article, the robbery happened at around 6am. Who is even awake to do something like that? Not the first thing I think about when I wake up at crack of dawn.
It's definitely questionable decision making on the part of the robbers. 6am is still night time and thus Texas Penal Code 9.42 applies. Seems worth it to wait another 30 minutes for a lower percent chance of losing your life.

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Originally Posted by weeeez
I would be so mad if a wannabe security guard hero started a shootout with customers all around, instead of handing the money.
Why would anyone even draw his gun there??
Just handle the money wtf!
Good point. Under Texas Penal Code 9.42 the smart play is to hand over the money and then shoot the perp(s) in the back of the head as they flee.
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