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a so-called "expert" at the house subcommittee hearing a few weeks ago said that bot detection technology is not advanced enough, and a bot can be designed to evade detection by site security by folding 10% of its full houses

Last edited by ScreaminAsian; 11-11-2011 at 08:32 PM.

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11-11-2011 , 08:42 PM

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useless

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Originally Posted by Lucky LITE

Suspect that/or have proof?

Really?

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11-11-2011 , 10:35 PM

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Old Bean

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

thus proving the machine is actually human.

a so-called "expert" at the house subcommittee hearing a few weeks ago said that bot detection technology is not advanced enough, and a bot can be designed to evade detection by site security by folding 10% of its full houses

Hmmm, 'advanced bot detection' that can't detect a player who folds 10% of his full houses...

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11-12-2011 , 04:55 AM

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Lucky LITE

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Originally Posted by useless

Really?

Sorry if it's already in the thread. Just curious.

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11-12-2011 , 05:00 AM

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Men"the master"fan

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Originally Posted by tongni

I've seen the bot fold the river incorrectly several times, including one where I 3bet the turn with T7 on ATT9, it called with JQ, hit a king on the river and folded. When I first started playing I thought the bot was very bad, and somehow just always seemed to make the right decision. My conclusion is now that the bot is very good and plays erratically/incorrectly on occasion (as designed). That said, I think playing the bot requires an extreme level of concentration, as well as I've found a couple ways that it is exploitable. I've seen about 10 different HU pros playing the bot, all with their own special strategy which they are convinced is the one that beats the bot - I feel >95% certain that they are all losing players against it, and at least one of their assumptions has always been wrong.

I feel after 100 hours of play against it I can break even against it. I think I'd rather play craps though.

If it folded on the river how do you know it had QJ?

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11-12-2011 , 05:16 AM

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dpain

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

These machines are probably owned by some sort of terrorist organization too.

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11-12-2011 , 05:17 AM

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John Mehaffey

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Originally Posted by Men"the master"fan

If it folded on the river how do you know it had QJ?

You can always see what it folded or what you folded to by pressing "peek".

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11-12-2011 , 06:01 AM

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Men"the master"fan

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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict

You can always see what it folded or what you folded to by pressing "peek".

thnx

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11-12-2011 , 09:25 AM

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tultfill

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Originally Posted by rockfsh

got rivered after betting every stage

I was doubting for a while, then saw your pic and I'm now 100% sure all "rigged!" people in this thread are very dumb or very unlucky. You're very dumb btw.

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11-12-2011 , 09:35 AM

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unomaas

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Does the HU's machine collect rake?

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11-12-2011 , 10:40 AM

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MidyMat

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Can someone please post the Nev. Gaming rules on this machine?

I have been cruising their site but have been unable to find anything.

Is it considered a slot machine(programmed to payout) or is considered a separate player that the individual is playing?

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11-12-2011 , 10:40 AM

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Whatever999

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Originally Posted by unomaas

Does the HU's machine collect rake?

nope.

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11-12-2011 , 10:44 AM

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27AllIn

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Can anyone write a program to beat this thing?

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11-12-2011 , 10:48 AM

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BetaPro

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Originally Posted by 27AllIn

Can anyone write a program to beat this thing?

pretty sure the UAlberta bot is able to beat this one, unless it cheats.

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11-12-2011 , 01:03 PM

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Captain R

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Damn, I thought this thread was about the Aria Badugi/Omaha/Triple Draw mix getting bumped up to $200/400.

[x] disappointed

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11-12-2011 , 08:14 PM

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KingBBinLV

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Originally Posted by MidyMat

I've been curious about this too. It doesn't charge rake and at MGM resorts properties it gives the same amount of points on the players card as the reels and slots.

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11-12-2011 , 09:12 PM

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DickFuld

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What stops someone from using a bot themselves to play back at this bot that can beat it?

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11-12-2011 , 09:17 PM

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Life Tilt

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Originally Posted by RaineTech

What stops someone from using a bot themselves to play back at this bot that can beat it?

How do you propose to do that when this machine is in a casino and if you are by a machine doing something fishy you are basically going to either get your ass kicked or the authorities notified, or both.

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11-12-2011 , 09:29 PM

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DickFuld

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Originally Posted by Life Tilt

I mean, its a machine, why can't you run a program on a hand held device to input what is happening in every situation and have it tell you what to do? I highly doubt they prevent you from using your cell phone while playing on this machine...

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11-12-2011 , 10:31 PM

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3betdegen

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Originally Posted by Music Studio Fund

it's gotta be rigged some way... otherwise why would they offer it at the casino. somebody out there would get an edge on it if it weren't rigged.

More love definitely needed here.Casino player v player poker makes sence because of rake.Otherwise i refuse to play any game in a casino simply because as we all know its a tilted prop.
So why would anyone even imagine this isnt either?

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