I'd like to see someone agree to arbitrate and then see Viffer scramble to come up with 58k

What ever happened to Deeb? A few years ago he was well liked in the community. Now, no one can stand him.

Shaun

****ing

Deeb

https://www.pokerstars.com/en/tv/cha...aun-deeb.shtml

Dude Shaun, horizontal strips don't suit you.

Always makes me laugh when all these supposed high stakes ballers are cat fighting publicly over 50k or something.

Viffer, please correct me if I'm wrong on any points here:

-3rd party owes you 100k before/after placing bet you lose with him
- you tell 3rd party to knock it off the 100k He owes you
-3rd party agrees (?)
-3rd party than sells debt to deeb

Question: do you know if 3rd party made deeb aware he owed you 100k (now 100k-bet you lost to him)?

If no, 3rd party basically scammed deeb. If yes, deeb is ****ing ******ed.

How can you be sure 3rd party and deeb arn't conspiring to get you to pay money to a person who owes you more than 3X the amount in question? You can't.

3rd party-"can you stake me? I'm broke AGAIN and owe viferf X amount, it was 100k but then I won a bet against him to knock it down to X."

Deeb- "**** viffer, let's tell him I bought the debt and now he owes me for it. I'll give you 50% of whatever I get off him."

3rd party-"well, he was silly enough to make the bet with me in the first place, I mean, considering I already owed him 100k. I was just planning on free-rolling him on bets until the debt was cleared. Or until he wouldn't take my action. That's when I was gonna tell him to GFY. Sure let's do it. I am a scumbag, after all."

Whether 3rd party and deeb were trying to scam you makes no difference though; you owe deeb nothing AINEC. Must be nice being able to afford to offer deeb 15k despite you having no responsibility or obligation to. Sick life.

In summary-

-3rd party owes you 100k - bet amount
-you owe deeb $0.00
-3rd party owes deeb the money he paid for this imaginary "debt"
-3rd party a scumbag
-Deeb a ****ing idiot

Arbitration complete- plz be sending me 2k for my time.

Good points actually. Deeb looks like a ***king idiot for his behavior.

There should be a group of people similar to the supreme court that decide poker outcomes. All evidence should be submitted without names attached, so that decisions are unbiased. Obviously you can always take someone to court if you want, but this could be a way to keep these problems within the poker community

JRB scams Deeb.
Deeb cries because he got hustled.

Does anyone in this community actually feel any amount of sympathy for Deeb? He acts like a total POS most times.

I have no dog in this fight, but it is pretty apparent that Viffer is telling the truth and Deeb is wrong. Deeb has always struck me as an angle shooter.

I don't know if it is the way ESPN edited the footage, but Deeb looked like such an arrogant dickwad. I don't know how well he knows Raymer, but he was being such a jerk to him. Maybe it was in good fun, but unless he knew him really well it seemed very out of line. Greg Raymer is one of the nicest dudes in poker, and watching Deeb diss him was so infuriating.

His wearing a dress in the ladies event that one year was pretty pathetic. O.k, I have made up my mind: Shaun Deeb is a great poker player but a horrible person.

Seriously. Viffer wins hands down and Deeb is a greedy byatch that thinks hes cuter. Deeb wants to be the 'tough guy' thats nice. gfy. One look at him we know how tough he is. Come back down to earth, little man.

Wait, you're saying that you believe this to be 100% black and white, you owe nothing, and yet you offered to settle?

On a totally separate note, it never fails to amaze me how people can, from a couple of posts, be absolutely certain who is right and who is wrong in a situation they were in no way involved in. Or have people's character completely figured out from a few things they've seen and/or read. NVG gunna NVG, I guess.

Is it ok to ever tryand solve issues? When shaunbought the supposed debt he was holding 50k of mine, He gave me my whole 50k, From day one i told him he wasnt getting a penny from me, He has tried to collect from both parties since then. Many transactions heppen and you can settle on transactions to settle other transactions? You ever pleade guilty to speeding when they accused you to recless driving?

If your not willing to bet on some thing you are probally wrong.

If your going to publicly accuse someone of oweing you should be willing to bet on it.

I dont think hes willing to do that he just wants to slander me.

Ill give you one more way to collect we do a 20 min MMA fight, ill give you a freeroll on the 28k

I was thinking the same exact thing and to be honest, after reading this post it's not clear whatsoever. In fact, the posts from the two involved parties tend to support the argument that there is in fact something owed for the exact reason cited by Bobo Fett. Why offer to settle a debt you don't owe when you don't owe it.

All that being said. Deeb took the risk of buying an unsecured gambling debt (with no documentation) and therefore, he should've factored in the risk that the debt was invalid, previously satisfied or uncollectible when he "paid" for it. No sympathy for him.

The level of IQ in this thread is being propped up by viffer currently

This is getting off topic, Im not here to argue weather i owe or dont, i could care less what any one thinks. Im here to give Shaun a way to collect if he really believes i owe him money.

He can win arbitration where if 2 out of 5 agree with him he wins

He can fight for it. When buying debt you have to assume some percent of the time you will have to use m0ore then words to get paid, this gives him a legal way to use muscle to collect.

Beyond that he can STFU and Die in a grease fire, ( wow the abrevation for that is stared out? )

If you wont bet on it your probally wrong.



Normally id be bouncing out for a hooker, now im bouncing to change a diaper.

So if he bought a debt that doesn't exist are you saying JRB is a scammer or whoever sold him the debt is a scammer?

xcardplayer IS GOD

Didn't he say him and jrb settled their dispute. Maybe JRB used it to get put of owing Shaun or someone else.

No, but I get your point. I can think of two reasons one would do this - because one was guilty of reckless driving and therefore happy to take the lesser charge, or if one was innocent but concerned of being found guilty in spite of that and facing some serious consequences.

In the case at hand, if you didn't owe any money I fail to see what the consequences for you might have been, if you weren't being pursued legally.

In other words, in the reckless driving analogy, there is incentive for you to plead guilty in either scenario. In the situation with Deeb, I can see incentive for you to settle in the first scenario (IE if it wasn't clear that you didn't owe money), but I fail to see one if you clearly owed nothing.

Viffer, you say you don't want to go into detail, then you give some details but not all. Then you say the thread was started to get arbirtation between you and Shaun but later say you don't want our advice. What's the point of this thread?

Public shameing? Trying to get people on your side? Butt hurt?

Totally agree.

I just dont read any posts from low post counts anymore in NVG. No info or originality in posts of random trolls. Its like turning off observers chat.

How about the consequence of getting his name slandered to every other poker player, and he has to go around explaining himself to everyone.

I've been a long time reader of this site but first time poster and it's due to my fascination with this thread. My background is I've been to Vegas probably 20 times in the past 10 years where I'll play at your standard $2/$5 tables so by no means do I completely understand that community but I do understand finance and probably have a moderately above average sense of how things there work so lemme see if I got this right.

Going with a hypothetical situation since I won't speak of others in a negative way if I don't know them.

An associate owes me $100K.
I then lose $30k to the same associate and I can't cover it at the time.
I tell him, you now only owe me $70k.

The associate who now owes me $70k tells someone else I owe them $30K.
3rd party gives associate $20k to clear the debt on my behalf.
3rd party now tells me I owe them $30K.

This is it right? If that is how it went down, 3rd party has no case and used poor judgement in giving associate $20k. On top of that, associate is shady af for accepting the $20k in the first place.

viffer wins