Isn’t that most of them?

*takes drag off camel light and coughs into oxygen mask*

That's one cherry picked definition. Here is another explanation of Ad Hominem by a website comletely devoted to fallacies:

Ad Hominem (Abusive)
argumentum ad hominem
(also known as: personal abuse, personal attacks, abusive fallacy, damning the source, name calling, refutation by caricature, against the person, against the man)
Description: Attacking the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself, when the attack on the person is completely irrelevant to the argument the person is making.

Logical Form:
Person 1 is claiming Y.
Person 1 is a moron.
Therefore, Y is not true.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...ominem-Abusive

Making an argument for a poker themed hotel is irrelevant to a gov't shutdown restricting a very popular mental activity that millions enjoyed and thus possibly increasing the chances of Alzeimer's disease to those millions that enjoyed that activity. Therefore since the two ideas are unrelated an Ad Hominem fallacy can be considered to have occurred.

One way to avoid such a fallacy is to forget any threads a OP has had in the past and concentrate on the thread and argument presented, but I doubt that will occur in this forum.

Except that here, no one claimed you were a moron, or that anything wasn't true. Someone pointed out that you had started another terrible thread, and therefore your ideas should be carefully scrutinized.

agreed. I stand corrected, you were correct in your use of ad hominen fallacy.


due to the tenacity and passion with which you promoted the poker themed hotel in Vegas , that thread will live you with forever.... sry.

Regarding this thread. I've already said its an interesting topic, for live poker (and other mind games), not online poker.

Grunching, but I think it's obvious poker or the shutdown thereof has caused OP brain damage.

So then I assume you believe that bringing in a conclusion made by the world's leading researcher on Alzheimer's disease (as I did in the first post of this thread) is something a person with brain damage would do.

It's an observation based on a random (?) sample of the total body of work

Who is 'the world's leading researcher on Alzheimer's disease', some guy named Mike Schultz? Not hardly. And what primary citation of his work, or for that matter anyone else's, can you provide that actually supports the point you tried to make that playing poker reduces the risk of getting the disease?

There was a 5,000 person study conducted by a leading expert 5-7 years ago. He was very legit.

Can't rem his name or find link, but it was someone from Cleveland Clinic in Vegas.

Study showed pretty clearly that playing card games slowed down the onset of symptoms.

It did not show it reduced the risk of getting the disease.

Two totally different things.

Damn, you figured that out on your own ?

You must be one significant threat. Obviously, Sheldon Adelson is afraid of competition from your poker-only hotel in Las Vegas and hired everyone on 2+2 to heap derision on that idea.

Adelson also perhaps tasked his minions to dump on your Alzheimer's concern, despite his personally sponsoring Alzheimer's research at the Dr. Miriam and Sheldon G Adelson Graduate School of Medicine, Sackler Faculty of Medicine, Tel Aviv University.

AFAIK social interaction + cognitive exercise are what slows down the symptoms of Alzheimer's. Others have already said it but I don't think online poker fits the parameters of the research.

The Nun Study was one of the biggest studies of the disease and provides some fascinating insights:

https://www.atlasobscura.com/article...ng-nuns-brains

The author of the study David Snowden wrote a book on the study which is supposed to be excellent.

Smokers ironically are proven to have lower risk for Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.

Is this based on samples from the same age group? I would assume that a lot of smokers wouldn't reach the age where those diseases are more prevalent, and perhaps those that reach those later years have an above average constitution anyway.

I think it might have something to do with the dopamine connection to both.

This is an excellent documentary about how a Parkinson's sufferer eased his symptoms with ecstasy (correlated with dopamine receptors).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfP-cUTER5c

Speaking of Parkinson's, here's an excerpt from an article about a rehab center that uses video poker to help Parkinson and stroke patients:

"What we know about gambling is that it stimulates the prefrontal cortex and that’s an area of the brain that can be damaged in a traumatic brain injury,” Sarah Tempest, a speech pathologist at the facility, told Fox News.

Tempest said this type of stimulation to the prefrontal cortex can help patients with attention, working memory, problem-solving and impulse control.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/video...s-in-las-vegas

Seems logical that something that stimulates the prefrontal cortex and affects attention, working memory and problem solving might also have an effect on future development of the brain disease Alzheimers.

Then you have a guy like Leatherass who successfully grinded millions and millions of hands over several years and who is now middle-aged and appears to be suffering an severe antisocial personality disorder.

I'm done with this, but just to help you out with future forays into logical thinking:

Let's see if I understand this correctly: something about the shutdown of online poker has a causal effect on Alzheimer's disease.

First, correlation is not causation.

Now you're quoting some other story or study suggesting that some similar activity, completely unaffected by the government shut down of online poker, seems to offer similar benefits. Others have mentioned mentally and socially stimulating endeavors producing similar results anecdotally and in still other studies.

Either way, the argument is as ridiculous as a poker-themed hotel or that language was invented by and for poker until it was stolen by the mainstream.

Op shoulda put dementia in the title as there's more to losing your mind in a dementia state than just alzhiemer's. I'm pretty sure I'm watching my friend get dementia thru wetbrain ie alcoholism.


It's ****ed up when a dude tells you the same story he told you a day or 2 before and does that for years with new stories, or you can just finish their sentence over and over again. Dude is gonna be half a tard soon....

No, you didn't understand it correctly because I never said the shutdown of online poker "causes" Alzheimer's.

Too much TV can cause antisocial behavior but they don't shut down TV stations:

https://www.medicaldaily.com/study-s...hildren-244778

Well if they did that people woudn't be compulsively consuming and that would hurt the GDP. Money>people obviously.