Anyone else tired of HS HUPLO Bot Kidopham on ACR? - Page 5 - Poker News

This is a good question. Programs like solvers provide you with GTO strategies, but they are often very complicated and impossible to memorize precisely. No-one plays GTO in NLHE and PLO is even more complex. If someone's decisions correspond near 100% to solver output there is no possible way that is a human making those decisions. The threshold point where it should be considered suspect is actually a lot lower than near 100%. If you want to test that theory for yourself - take a random dozen hands that went to showdown (preferably ones that had a lot of decisions in them) from the most respected players and see how often they diverge from GTO when you put them into a solver. Someone might argue they're purposefully not playing GTO in order to exploit their opponent - fine, find a single reputable high stakes players whose majority of decisions correspond with a solver. You are not going to find one.
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If he took that approach he wouldn't be getting criticized.

Maybe that's setting the bar too high but the alternative requires us all to just have faith in his feelz / accepting his claim about there being a consensus without him having provided a list of names of reputable people who agree.

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01-09-2019 , 11:17 PM

#102

4BetBoke

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,568

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Originally Posted by restacks

I actually tried to send you a private message, but 2+2 says you can't receive PM's or blocked them or something. I'd rather not say my screenname publicly.

Everyone knows who you are already?

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01-09-2019 , 11:24 PM

#103

restacks

centurion

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 142

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Originally Posted by 4BetBoke

Everyone knows who you are already?

The 5 or 6 HS ACR regs have figured it out. Not sure it's spread far beyond that.

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01-09-2019 , 11:38 PM

#104

restacks

centurion

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 142

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Originally Posted by Abbaddabba

TCfromUB jumped in to agree early in the thread. He's one of the best. Lemay and Tomson are also two of the best HUPLO players around. They've chosen to keep their identities private and I'll respect that. The other guys who have joined in agreeing about Kidopham are people I don't know, but appreciate their candor and willingness to step up. I also appreciate posters who disagree but did so in a thoughtful way. I also appreciate Horus. His meme game is probably too good though, he might be botting.

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01-09-2019 , 11:43 PM

#105

acr_rep1

stranger

Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 1

Cory Mikesell:

https://statname.net/players/2259551?

One of multiple players on the network with statistics matching solver outputs and why it's necessary for heads up to be removed.

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01-09-2019 , 11:52 PM

#106

mrmaxxx

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 308

This thread is half upset regs, half trolls, 5% stoners and 3.5% mathematics.

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01-10-2019 , 12:12 AM

#107

happy to be hear

adept

Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 943

Clarification, acr didn't have 30/60 huplo, right. It was just a jackass remark to say they do, it's 30/60 Hu limit holdem..
Right?

Memes have been very unfunny so far, so there's that.

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01-10-2019 , 12:21 AM

#108

mrmaxxx

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 308

The situation is bad, memes are funny.

Memes are all that´s left. Reminds me of crypto 2018.

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01-10-2019 , 01:16 AM

#109

+EVillain

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 569

has anyone reached out to ACR and asked them (calmly) wtf they are doing?

assuming kidopham was using a real time advisor, this guy stole a half million dollars using their platform, do they have anything to say about that?

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01-10-2019 , 01:35 AM

#110

golfbum983

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,943

Acr don’t give a **** bro and they rather we just stfu, they have no security, not trying to catch no one

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01-10-2019 , 01:52 AM

#111

RalphWaldoEmerson

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,954

h0rus this is such a fail.
part of being a good troll is picking threads that deserve to be trolled (which are most of them), not just indiscriminately derailing every topic.
This thread is clearly an exception to most of the crap that gets posted on here, OP obv put some thought into this before posting and others have separately voiced those same concerns.
I sympathize with OP trying to have a legit conversation on here, its just fkn impossible.

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01-10-2019 , 01:58 AM

#112

+EVillain

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 569

i have a feeling their security team consists of two dudes paid to pray nonstop in rotating shifts that another DDos attack doesnt crush WPN into the stone age

who knows what kind of show phil is running down there in costa rica. lol wasnt ultimate bet based on CR?

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01-10-2019 , 02:22 AM

#113

ozzislavo

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 24

This message is hidden because H0RUS is on your ignore list.

This thread (and others) are much better now!!!

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01-10-2019 , 02:31 AM

#114

wookiez

enthusiast

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 93

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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson

this. h0rus oversaturating the meme's. coming from me thats saying a lot. just straight up derailing the topic now

not fun

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01-10-2019 , 02:31 AM

#115

BeHumble!

banned

Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 276

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Originally Posted by ozzislavo

This message is hidden because H0RUS is on your ignore list.

This thread (and others) are much better now!!!

Dude is def having an episode or jerking it to all the attention he now gets being abrasive. He is not funny, doesn't seem very smart... and I doubt he wins at poker.

This is his way of stickin it back to all the guyz who took hiz moniez. Hea make fun of dem on their own forum!

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01-10-2019 , 03:03 AM

#116

whosnext

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,730

The meme train is temporarily halted and will not be allowed to start back up.

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01-10-2019 , 04:43 AM

#117

bombonca

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,423

what is OPs stars name?

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01-10-2019 , 08:35 AM

#118

domgio7

journeyman

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 397

I bet there used to be threads like this about lance armstrong on cycling forums

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01-10-2019 , 08:46 AM

#119

restacks

centurion

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 142

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Originally Posted by bombonca

what is OPs stars name?

I'm American, can't play on Stars.

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01-10-2019 , 08:52 AM

#120

restacks

centurion

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 142

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Originally Posted by +EVillain

A number of players have inquired. I did so privately before making this post to give ACR a chance. Players have inquired after and received the standard "not in our business plan" line

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01-10-2019 , 08:59 AM

#121

restacks

centurion

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 142

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Originally Posted by acr_rep1

Cory Mikesell:

https://statname.net/players/2259551?

One of multiple players on the network with statistics matching solver outputs and why it's necessary for heads up to be removed.

1) If you're going to publicly out my name please show all 110k hands I played this year, not just the period where I played and lost the bot

2) Thanks for implying that I'm cheating. I'm not. I've handmade tools to study from away from the table. Additionally, I've never been contacted and asked to prove I'm a real person, I also start games at 6 max, play 6 max etc

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01-10-2019 , 09:22 AM

#122

SirDehi

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 183

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Originally Posted by mrmaxxx

This thread is half upset regs, half trolls, 5% stoners and 3.5% mathematics.

that post upsets "3.5%" of users

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01-10-2019 , 10:01 AM

#123

Mihan29

centurion

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 109

The HUNL was even worse than the HUPLO lobby, basically all bots.

In HUNL mid-highstakes everyone know each other, and the consensus was that ACR was pretty much bots holding the lobby 12 hours a day.

These nicks are "confirmed" bots in HUNL:

wolfeating
TechViking
WalkAllOvrU
TakeYrMoney
Steve00

And the list keeps going. I think Wolfeating and TechViking were banned, and just showed up a week later with new screennames.

Esp WalkAllOvrU and TakeYrMoney was so obvious bots + multiaccounting, logged on the exact same time every day, never played each other, nobody knows them and they play like bots.

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01-10-2019 , 11:10 AM

#124

DonWon

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 385

So, it only became a problem after he took your $20K winnings & $5k bankroll? I think you lost all credibility after seeing this graph. You made it seem like you were some king crusher flashing your credentials. Had a bad run with one player, and he's automatically a bot/AS user.