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Originally Posted by ZRocketman
There's a big difference between opposing gay marriage and opposing a federal mandate on gay marriage. Johnson has said that he personally has no problem with gay marriage, but would prefer to see the government get out of the controversial business of defining marriage. He's been very clear about his position in many interviews on this subject.
Meh.
That is a weak and two faced response. The govt has ALREADY defined marriage. It has already happened. So not defining marriage isn't an option. To make it worse the government has then used marriage to affect everything from from health care, to taxes, to custody rights, to social security benefits, to inheritance, to criminal defense rights.
So the govt has already
a) defined marriage
b) created a system of laws that provides benefits for being married.
In theory I agree the govt shouldn't have defined marriage and certainly shouldn't have decided to provide benefits to a subset of the population. Married couples or unmarried couples should be equal under the law (same sex or opposite sex). However the reality is the past 200+ years of legislation EXISTS.
You and Gov Johnson can pretend the problem away but the reality is the government isn't going to repeal and rewrite every law that provides benefits for married couples. For the govt to provide benefits to a married persons and then at the same time deny people the right to get married to gain those benefits is blatantly separate but equal.
You or the governor can oppose gay marriage but at least be honest and say "I believe pandering to people dubious moral distinctions is more important than equal protection under the law for all citizens of these United States". It is intellectually bankrupt to argue otherwise.
Eventually we will have marriage equality but cop outs like the one you espoused will simply make it take longer. 50 years ago likely someone exactly like you made the same claim about blacks. I am happily married for 10 years now so this doesn't affect me personally. Hell I enjoy all those unequal protections however as a Libertarian it irks me for so called conservatives put pandering to peoples moral beliefs above the responsibility for a government to protect ALL of its citizens.
Last edited by DeathAndTaxes; 07-27-2011 at 11:46 AM.