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09-23-2007 , 11:33 PM
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In his video blog when he's talking about the rule against showing hole cards...

"I don't think anyone who really knows anything about poker supports this rule... not going to say who I'm talking about because he'll get all mad and we'll have a big fight on the internet"

(not direct quote but that's the gist)
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09-23-2007 , 11:36 PM
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probably Matt Savage
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09-24-2007 , 12:05 AM
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the cheating, card viewing players at absolute ?
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09-24-2007 , 01:02 AM
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09-24-2007 , 01:45 AM
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Which rule against showing holecards?
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09-24-2007 , 02:23 AM
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09-24-2007 , 02:31 AM
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Which rule against showing holecards?
if you show 1 card, you need to flip over second one, imo.

so you cant just flip your ace of hearts, and keep your 3 of clubs mucked. dealer will make you show both, imo.

DN says the rule is to prevent "needeling", imo.
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09-24-2007 , 02:43 AM
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Aah, they had a bit of a convo bout this on HSP.

Its right that its a stupid rule and whoever believes in it is an idiot.
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09-24-2007 , 03:20 AM
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here's the link of the matt savage vs DN discussion a couple months ago

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09-24-2007 , 03:38 AM
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09-24-2007 , 03:52 AM
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here's the link of the matt savage vs DN discussion a couple months ago

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cliffs?
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09-24-2007 , 03:58 AM
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Honestly guys, a note on tone.
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09-24-2007 , 05:17 AM
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09-24-2007 , 06:05 AM
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Cliffs are quite difficult. IMO, Daniel, and people like Jamie Gold (which should tell you enough) want to show card(s) during a hand [for psychological reasons][to show off and get more camera time]. Matt Savage, and people like me, say that it people could do the same thing as a form of collusion and that the floor-people don't want to have to make a bunch of subjective decisions as to what is what.

Daniel then ignores this and/or confuses things by conflating this issue with the completely separate issue of showing one or both cards after the hand.

Those are my (admittedly biased) cliff notes :-)
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09-24-2007 , 06:13 AM
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if you show 1 card, you need to flip over second one, imo.

so you cant just flip your ace of hearts, and keep your 3 of clubs mucked. dealer will make you show both, imo.

DN says the rule is to prevent "needeling", imo.

This needs complete clarification. Hardly anyone has a problem with showing one card after the hand, as above. I don't have a problem with it. That is a silly rule.

But DN also wants to show cards during a hand. When he says "everyone agrees with me on this", he means the first (after the hand) case, however he often seems to be implying (inadvertently perhaps) that everyone agrees about the second (during the hand) case, which they (we) most definitely do not.
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09-24-2007 , 11:44 AM
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Cliffs are quite difficult. IMO, Daniel, and people like Jamie Gold (which should tell you enough) want to show card(s) during a hand [for psychological reasons][to show off and get more camera time]. Matt Savage, and people like me, say that it people could do the same thing as a form of collusion and that the floor-people don't want to have to make a bunch of subjective decisions as to what is what.

Daniel then ignores this and/or confuses things by conflating this issue with the completely separate issue of showing one or both cards after the hand.

Those are my (admittedly biased) cliff notes :-)
That's just stupid. If people want to collude they can do gestures with their face, hand, whatever.
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09-24-2007 , 12:34 PM
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09-24-2007 , 12:55 PM
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