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Everyone, do yourselves a favor. Never ever play at this site ever ever again. Maybe you can find good games here but you can find good games on any site. Stop feeding these thieves more money. This is beyond embarrassing for them

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05-06-2010 , 11:14 PM

#127

kubbekaster

journeyman

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tiehfs

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05-06-2010 , 11:18 PM

#128

hammer_time

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so this is how xblink owns souls

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05-06-2010 , 11:24 PM

#129

FactortingNits

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UB/AB needs to be trampled by a stampede of Domo with bats.

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05-06-2010 , 11:34 PM

#130

Interpleader

adept

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What is Sebok saying?

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05-06-2010 , 11:40 PM

#131

stass13

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,340

im completely shocked to be honest.

In no way did i think they would be the next to be caught for something like this. I just assumed that they took the entire potripper, and cheating serious, seeing that it almost ended ub.

Now that this is out, omg... Like some of there tournys had great structure, the rakeback, etc... some bonues kept me there. ive recently been hiting up tilt again. And not played ub in months.

I dont think i could ever go back.

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05-06-2010 , 11:42 PM

#132

stass13

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,340

when are tilt and stars going to be dragged down.

this much money going around, u know what happens. skimming.

Im as worried as u can be to be honest. Online poker, is shaddy... the rake is ******ed... And everyone is too stupid to care. We are filling up with regs, mroe and more...

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05-06-2010 , 11:50 PM

#133

Mookman5

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Originally Posted by stass13

Lol, awesome level. No way this post could really be serious

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05-06-2010 , 11:53 PM

#134

stass13

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Originally Posted by Mookman5

Lol, awesome level. No way this post could really be serious

im totally thinking that. contrarian thinking...

they were nearly crushed, in the online cash cow business.. u normally fear, not being able to make the sickest life u can. which is online poker.

ask the pros, about the full tilt millions.

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05-06-2010 , 11:53 PM

#135

scratchy1

adept

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So what led to PTR finding this vulnerability? Were they tipped off or doing their own investigation on suspicious play there?

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05-06-2010 , 11:56 PM

#136

RolloTomasi

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Originally Posted by thunderbirdtwo

Hopefully this sinks AP/UB once and for all

abandon ship

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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator

Joe Sebok

say it aint so Joe ldo

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Originally Posted by Sjors

Didn't expect ptr to be so proactive about these issues, seeing their nature of business. But after helping with the stox scandal aswell they deserve some credit.
Nice work.

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Originally Posted by NLfool

ehh, you might not be running it, but who's to say it isn't running? If I were a bad guy I'd make it look like svchosts.exe, services.exe or rundll32.exe or some variant of that. A semi competent user would have no clue, much less the totally oblivious people that make up 99% of the interwebs. I work with guys who are literally 10x smarter than me in this field, if they were bad and on the inside the possibilities would be RUSS HAMILTON JR.

FYP

maybe it has to do with BlastOff/Tokwiro defaulting on the loan to Excapsa maybe the Excapsa peeps stopped doing maintenance just a hunch
get ready for Cereus to implode

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05-06-2010 , 11:58 PM

#137

randominternet2345

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Originally Posted by stass13

im completely shocked to be honest.

Get in line behind Leggett

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05-06-2010 , 11:59 PM

#138

stass13

old hand

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does ptr have play, in the way of HH that can confirm this was happening...

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05-07-2010 , 12:04 AM

#139

NoahSD

Is Right

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Originally Posted by stass13

does ptr have play, in the way of HH that can confirm this was happening...

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To our knowledge there are no cases of this vulnerability being used to exploit actual players.

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05-07-2010 , 12:05 AM

#140

stass13

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Originally Posted by NoahSD

boy do i look stupid....

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05-07-2010 , 12:07 AM

#141

Hood

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Originally Posted by NoahSD

But how would they know either way?

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05-07-2010 , 12:09 AM

#142

stass13

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Originally Posted by Hood

But how would they know either way?

its like a needle in a hay stack, unless u focus on higher stakes games, and winning with a higher vpip, i would imagine, that would be the most easy people to find..

if russ hamilton had half a brain, and went on some bad losing sessions who would of even questioned it. hes a moron..

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05-07-2010 , 12:10 AM

#143

chinamaniac

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Originally Posted by Interpleader

What is Sebok saying?

LOL@ Sebok.

Sent me a personal email saying I should have my HH from 4 years ago very soon

That was 6 months ago

Last edited by Kevmath; 05-07-2010 at 12:37 AM.

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05-07-2010 , 12:12 AM

#144

cking

2008 WCOOP ME Champ

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,196

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Originally Posted by Hood

But how would they know either way?

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To our knowledge there are no cases of this vulnerability being used to exploit actual players.

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05-07-2010 , 12:12 AM

#145

King Fish

A Big Deal Around Here

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 15,065

It's like UB is Lucy. It's players are Charlie Brown. Phil Hellmuth is the football.

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05-07-2010 , 12:14 AM

#146

PropPlayer

Sports Betting Mod

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Huge thanks to PTR and everyone who provided valueable info in this thread.

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05-07-2010 , 12:15 AM

#147

RolloTomasi

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Originally Posted by Hood

But how would they know either way?

Déjà vu

Confucius say: "if you sit at a poker table and cant find the sucker then your the sucker"

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05-07-2010 , 12:17 AM

#148

SenatorKevin

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Originally Posted by scratchy1

So what led to PTR finding this vulnerability? Were they tipped off or doing their own investigation on suspicious play there?

They were probably curious more than anything. I analyzed Full Tilt's network traffic a few years ago for such a vulnerability and was pleased to see they had fully encrypted traffic which made me feel more comfortable playing there. I never looked at UB, cause I didn't play there at the time.

EDIT: Errrrrr. I take that back. They were probally analyzing traffic to improve their hand grabbing rates. Total f'n scumbags. It almost sounds like they went public with this vulnerability before contacting UB as well. What a joke.

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05-07-2010 , 12:20 AM

#149

Hood

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Déjà vu

Confucius say: "if you sit at a poker table and cant find the sucker then your the sucker"

I think there's a misunderstanding on what was quoted. Noah quoted from the PTR article:

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To our knowledge there are no cases of this vulnerability being used to exploit actual players

My point is, PTR has really no idea if this has or has not been used to exploit players or not. They are merely the first to publicly report it.

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05-07-2010 , 12:29 AM

#150

floppynutz

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Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 290

Everyone it's OK to think the worst this time! They ****ed up not once, not twice, not thrice, but many times. Let's make this the gigantic lead straw that broke the thieving camel's back.

FU, cereusly

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