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Originally Posted by happy to be hear
what year or quarter did they knowingly have less money in the bank than the players balances? A rough guess.
How quickly did that get out of hand? Slowly or exponentially?
what percentage of the company was stunned when they found out they didn't have the full amount of players balances. As in, they had no idea at all.
This is just my opinion; Bitar went all out with the level of marketing budget in the lead up to and during the WSOP 2010. In retrospect, i sense that there was a conscious decision to dip into funds way more than before to really go after Stars - and it nearly worked.
I'm not saying player funds were 100% isolated before that, but in their minds any dipping was "probably manageable" before that. For context, the game was raking around 750k profit per day.
The echecks issue with US players in the same year was suicide. For the record, Stars did it too - but then quickly stopped it. Tilt did not.
We were essentially letting players deposit 500 dollars in the form of a cashable echeck that we started to realise had a very low chance of being cashed.
The employees in Cashier/Fraud/Support started to realise that there was so much collectable outstanding in early 11 I'd say, it was definitely noticed in more senior roles in mid to late 10.
Percentage wise, the vast majority of employees would not have ever thoguht the company couldnt cover anything anytime. This was a company that flew in Cubans from Cuba to roll cigars at company parties, that has a gourmet chef and full team providing free meals for all employees, renting out castles in Ireland for full weekends for staff parties all expenses paid.
To most employees, even when the AGCC got involved, recovery was easily achievable.
Ultimately when BF happened and US players ran to bank, cashier were very slowly withdrawing, when US withdrawal delays got traction online, like here, the ROW players ran to the bank, that's what caused the collapse. There wasnt enough money to cover the withdrawal values.
If BF had happened in April 2010, there would absolutely have been enough money to cover the US run to the bank and avoid ROW players getting nervous - and everyone would have been none the wiser really.
It was all about the marketing spend in 2010 and the noncollectable echecks that dented cashflow that year.
Last edited by AnyQuestions21; 01-28-2021 at 09:51 AM.