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06-04-2015 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ponyless
There are a number of pictures here of him - with glasses on and off!

http://pokerphotoarchive.photoshelte...00yrrB.lQNTjg/
there definitely appears to be some suspicious unidentifiable schmutz near the neck/hood region of his sweatshirt.
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06-04-2015 , 10:52 AM
The accused is from the country of Moldova. Which also happeneds to be the poorest country in Eastern Europe. How does a guy from an extremely poor country afford to play in a 10k poker tourney? Sick hustle this guy has lol...
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06-04-2015 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
Let me get this straight.

Keith Lehr, a known cheat in the US, is playing another known cheat from Europe in a 10K HU match.

Unbelievable

What could possibly go wrong?
Poker sucks sometimes
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06-04-2015 , 10:55 AM
Would have been very interesting if Coca made the live streamed FT.....
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06-04-2015 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jimbobwe00
there definitely appears to be some suspicious unidentifiable schmutz near the neck/hood region of his sweatshirt.
If you look at other pictures it's clearly the Armani logo printed in the hood in a sort of pattern. Although some pictures do look like it's residue or something



You can clearly see that it's a little Armani logo:
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06-04-2015 , 10:56 AM
Who busted him? I want to hear from him.
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06-04-2015 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by blanconegro
Our speculation is that he was using some sort of invisible ink in combination with special sunglasses.
I've been wondering for a couple years now why aren't sunglasses already banned from WSOP, EPT etc. Is it because you can't ban normal eyeglasses hence you have to allow all glasses?

With the advancements in Google Glass/Oculus Rift technology it's inevitable that more cheating will occur.
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06-04-2015 , 10:59 AM
I also wish he went to the FT so they had a stream of it.
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06-04-2015 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
i'm sure we'll find out in the next few days, but i'm guessing Coca hasn't received any of his "winnings". the fact that the WSOP staff was tipped off to his suspicious behavior makes me think they'd take the step of withholding payment until their investigation into the matter was complete.
now that was the easy part. Coca was only 2 hours into a 4 hour wait in the payout line.

beware the payout line.... its a tarp !
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06-04-2015 , 11:02 AM
I'm really surprised to see this weird guy @ WSOP. Played many hours vs him at $10/$25 and 25$/50$ cash games in Cyprus. I heard some stories about him and got warned as well but could never be sure as he's a pretty big loser over here. Most of the time he plays with these sunglasses of his but from time to time he removes them. But even then, his eyes look unusual (maybe from some kind of infrared contact lens?) Anyway he's usually losing big. BUT, I remember some unbelievable sessions in which he totally crushed the tables (very suspicious considering his terrible skills) as mentioned by the players here. Last time we played, I asked for deck changes regularly and he quit the table at the end, avoiding my tables in next occasions. But I was suspecting of something 'extra', ink is probably what it is. Then again, cheating big and still losing?
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06-04-2015 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ezdonkey
I've been wondering for a couple years now why aren't sunglasses already banned from WSOP, EPT etc. Is it because you can't ban normal eyeglasses hence you have to allow all glasses?

With the advancements in Google Glass/Oculus Rift technology it's inevitable that more cheating will occur.
no b/c of something called contact lenses.
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06-04-2015 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by timfbmx
The accused is from the country of Moldova. Which also happeneds to be the poorest country in Eastern Europe. How does a guy from an extremely poor country afford to play in a 10k poker tourney? Sick hustle this guy has lol...
you think every single person from a poor country, has to be poor...ok, when were you born?
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06-04-2015 , 11:28 AM
Announcement from Seth Palansky on Twitter:

We take these types of allegations very seriously & an investigation began immediately upon learning them. It is ongoing. (1/2)

2/2 Preliminary testing of cards show no markings or use of any foreign solution. Further tests will be done to confirm initial.
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06-04-2015 , 11:33 AM
Video of him leaving casino confirms ink rumors:

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06-04-2015 , 11:36 AM
Saw a site named Advanced intelligence spy shop sun glasses that can read invisible ink for 380 usd. Wonder if that technology is available. Anyone take picture of him with the sunglasses at tournament? Lol @ boredoo.
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06-04-2015 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by timfbmx
The accused is from the country of Moldova. Which also happeneds to be the poorest country in Eastern Europe. How does a guy from an extremely poor country afford to play in a 10k poker tourney? Sick hustle this guy has lol...


I'm guessing this is the image most of the people ITT have of him

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06-04-2015 , 11:40 AM
Maybe he's just a socially awkward wierdo who ran good????
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06-04-2015 , 11:49 AM
I vaguely remember some years ago there was a poster on 2+2 who pretty much warned everyone about invisible ink & contact lenses/sunglasses used at poker tables.

He was more or less laughed at.

If I remember correctly he also said some other things which might be used in homegames that sounded pretty crazy like some kind of e-ink cards, that can change the actual value of the card via third party electronic devices.
And patents for not so random shuffle machines and so on. But those are totally different stories
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06-04-2015 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sqwerty12
Wow, sick story but makes for a great read.

Didn't this guy already go very deep in one of the early events or am I thinking of someone else? I thought I recognise his name as being friends with someone else who went very deep in the same event.

Seems to me it would be hard to prove anything though after the event.

Will be interesting to see if he's left Vegas already or is still around.
I believe you're thinking of Valentin Vornicu who's friend with Aditya Prasetyo. Valentin got 96th in the Colossus, and Adi took 6th.

This guy is Valeriu Coca
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06-04-2015 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by random_chu
sore losers imo
+1
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06-04-2015 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hippy80
Announcement from Seth Palansky on Twitter:

We take these types of allegations very seriously & an investigation began immediately upon learning them. It is ongoing. (1/2)

2/2 Preliminary testing of cards show no markings or use of any foreign solution. Further tests will be done to confirm initial.
they probably wont find anything if they tested his deck in the match vs Lehr, since by then it was probably obvious people were onto him

would need to find/confirm his day 1 matchups decks
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06-04-2015 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
Let me get this straight.

Keith Lehr, a known cheat in the US, is playing another known cheat from Europe in a 10K HU match.

Unbelievable

What could possibly go wrong?
An AC poker dealer once told me about her helping to catch two cheaters playing at Harrah's and that they got perma-banned from there. Of course since they were only cheating at poker the two were allowed to play at CET's three other AC properties. I'm sure things would have been very different if they had been cheating the house at blackjack or something and they would have been banned from every casino around.

Why poker rooms don't share a black book of poker cheaters is something I'll never understand.
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06-04-2015 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BleetBleetImaSheep
I'd say that the likelihood that this person was using ink to mark cards is very slim.

Why do that when bending them is much easier to explain away?

Bending/nail marking would also seem match the weird card mannerisms that this person was seen to display.
Bending is what he was allegedly banned from the Ambassador in Prague for:

http://www.pokerzive.cz/zpravodajstv...azskych-kasin/

Coca marked them by bending the corners of specific cards - aces and kings, i.e. 8 cards in the deck. He then had a perfect view of which opponents held or did not hold the marked cards, which he took full advantage of. If he found himself with someone in a hand and the flop was, for example, A-K-3 and the opponent did not hold any of the marked cards, he exerted pressure with overbets or directly All-ins, depending on the situation.

....

Everything came out only after the cards from the cash game were put into package and further examined. It was noticed that the marked cards "lay away" from the unmarked ones.
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06-04-2015 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by peking
I vaguely remember some years ago there was a poster on 2+2 who pretty much warned everyone about invisible ink & contact lenses/sunglasses used at poker tables.

He was more or less laughed at.
This stuff has been around since the 90s. If this guy was playing blackjack, he would be in jail by now.
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06-04-2015 , 12:39 PM
have the officials given him the Money for 5th place already?
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