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Old 06-04-2015, 02:37 AM   #1
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Allegations of Cheating in WSOP 10k HU

https://twitter.com/connordrinan/sta...97285437112320
https://twitter.com/****ycakes123/st...87992735408128

Sounds like the accused is Valeriu Coca.
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Old 06-04-2015, 03:02 AM   #2
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Re: Allegations of Cheating in WSOP 10k HU

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Old 06-04-2015, 03:16 AM   #3
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Sounds like the accused is Valeriu Coca.
Source being?
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Old 06-04-2015, 03:57 AM   #4
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Coca beat Matt Marafioti in the first round, could be some epic stuff happening if this is true.
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Old 06-04-2015, 04:13 AM   #5
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Re: Allegations of Cheating in WSOP 10k HU

This cocu guy has ban in all czech casino in prague for cheating so.. He was marking cards somehow
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Old 06-04-2015, 04:37 AM   #6
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This cocu guy has ban in all czech casino in prague for cheating so.. He was marking cards somehow
Looks like an open and shut case of confirmed cheating.
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Old 06-04-2015, 05:57 AM   #7
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Re: Allegations of Cheating in WSOP 10k HU

Hey 2+2, it's Connor. We (the players that were beaten by this Valeriu Coca guy in the $10k HU) were trying to keep things quiet until we gave the WSOP adequate time to investigate the situation and come up with a solution, but since there are a lot of rumors circulating and a lot of people know bits and pieces already, I might as well clear things up.

Pratyush Buddiga was the first to lose to him. He is my good friend but seemed pretty tilted so I didn't ask details until I found out he was my next opponent. I asked for reads and whatnot and he basically told me he was really slow and passive in the beginning and then picked up the pace as the match went on as far as speed of play and aggression. He thought he was stalling in the beginning to give himself a better shot to win at a higher blind level. He said he would stall by rechecking his cards at a bunch of different angles when it was clear he made up his mind to fold already.

He did the same thing in my match. For the first 10 hands or so, he folded to most of my button opens and either limped or folded the button (doing the same obnoxious card checking tactics). I was thinking "man this guy is going to be a breeze." From that point on I won very few pots the rest of the match. Every time I had a good starting hand he folded. If I had a bad one he raised or re-raised. If I whiffed a flop he attacked my c-bets. If I whiffed and went for a delayed cbet, he blasted turn into me every time. If I hit and bet, he folded. Hit and checked, he checked ect ect ect.

It was probably the most frustrating match of my life and I've played a ton of HU. He grinded me down to 80k at bb4k from 240k starting. At this point I was playing super passive as his aggression was out of control. I made my first button raise in a while which was a shove with 33 and he snapped me with k5o for 20bb. I held and won my only significant pot of the match but he went back to work grinding me down to 60k and then won a flip to end the match.

I remember him folding 4 times total preflop once blinds got big. 1) He walked me when I had AA. 2) he folded to my min when I had AJs. 3) I capped my cards and waited for him to look at his cards first for the first time in the match as I was starting to get really skeptical. He acted surprised and flustered and walked me before I uncovered my hand. 4) After checking my hole cards (J9o i think) I looked behind me to see if there was a chance he had a friend on the rail who could see my cards but there was no way. He seemed very weirded out that I did that and again walked me.

I stormed out of the rio as tilted as I've ever been after busting a tournament and immediately messaged prat saying I felt like something major was off with the match. It didn't make sense that a guy grinding 300 euro mtts in eastern europe who has never played WSOP before would come here for the $10k HU and be such a beast. I ranted to Prat all the things that were weird, both mannerisms and plays he made vs me. Prat said he felt the exact same about his match but didn't say anything at first because he figured he was just being a sore loser and got owned. I then messaged the other 2 players he beat, Matt Marafioti and Aaron Mermelstein and they both had similar "yeah i felt totally owned, couldn't win a pot, thing he was doing with his cards was really weird, ect" type responses.

I called my other good friend Byron Kaverman and warned him about everything as they were scheduled to play in the round of 16 the next morning. We figured we should also tell Jack Effel so they could be on the lookout. Byron said he knew Jack well so he would talk to him. I went to bed questioning myself and wondering if I was just being a sore loser.

I then woke up this morning to a message on facebook from a czech friend of mine that read "Hey man just woke up and found out u were in HU with a guy who made a lot of money in cash games in Prague. He has ban in czech poker casinos for cheating. Guy was marking cards. We can talk in person little bit later when Im on sngs in Rio and u can forward it to floors players etc so they can do smtng about it I guess"

I instantly passed this along to Byron and he said that Jack was on it and they were monitoring him via cameras and also switching up the decks frequently. My friend also sent me this article which you have to translate to english with your broswer: http://www.pokerzive.cz/zpravodajstv...azskych-kasin/

I spoke with Byron after his match and he said he was 100% sure the guy was trying to cheat and was watching the cards very closely as the dealer dealt off the deck but that he did a pretty good job covering his cards and the decks were being switched up so it was hard for Coca to work his magic. Unfortunately he couldn't fade an 80/20 and the guy advanced. His next opponent, Keith Lehr, was also warned about Coca. At this point, Coca probably knew that he had been exposed based on the attention his matches were receiving from the floor, the way Byron and Keith were protecting their hands so well, ect ect. He finally lost to Keith in 5th place.

Our speculation is that he was using some sort of invisible ink in combination with special sunglasses. We haven't heard much from WSOP since the match, but what little I have heard I would rather keep to myself for now and allow WSOP time to finish the investigation and make their own statement.
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:07 AM   #8
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Wow...I hope this issue gets resolved! Heavy!
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:08 AM   #9
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Re: Allegations of Cheating in WSOP 10k HU

This is Pratyush and I can confirm everything Connor said. I wasn't sure if I had just been owned by somebody who had a sick game plan coming in or not but as the stories started coalescing, it became pretty clear something fishy was going on.

To be honest, if Connor and I weren't such good friends it's pretty likely he would've gotten away with it, with each of us (Matt, Aaron, Connor, Byron, and me) wondering to ourselves just exactly what the heck happened.

Also wanted to add that in addition to all the weird card re-checking and reshuffling (which we did assume was when he was marking them), later on in the match he would often swivel his head in either direction for no apparent reason while the action was on him. Pure speculation is this had something to do with his sunglasses and trying to look at my cards but I'm not really sure. It was very strange at the time and in retrospect, very suspicious.

The WSOP seems to have taken it very seriously and we're just waiting to see what happens now. Can post more after that.

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Old 06-04-2015, 06:12 AM   #10
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Re: Allegations of Cheating in WSOP 10k HU

Wow pretty sickening. Ty both for posting about this. Hope the WSOP manage to address this in the correct manner. GL
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:14 AM   #11
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Re: Allegations of Cheating in WSOP 10k HU

wow this might be a reason to cancel my trip to vegas , definitely not playing any cash games @ rio !
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:14 AM   #12
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Re: Allegations of Cheating in WSOP 10k HU

WOW
Thanks for posting lads.Amazing if true what lengths some will go too.

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Old 06-04-2015, 06:16 AM   #13
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wow crazy, feel for both of you. hope you get a satisfactory outcome.
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:25 AM   #14
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prob marking cards when he was checking his cards in annoying ways that we seemed like stalling etc
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:26 AM   #15
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A reason to ban sunglasses at the table? I'm in.
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:32 AM   #16
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this is unreal hope everything gets resolved in your favor
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:33 AM   #17
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If there's ever a tournament this could happen in, it's the HU. You always see this as like the corny plot to a bad poker movie/tv show. Sick to think it could happen in real life. Hope they get to the bottom of it and make it right somehow.
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:45 AM   #18
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A reason to ban sunglasses at the table? I'm in.
Sounds good to me I was never a fan of sun glasses in the first place.
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:59 AM   #19
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I'm not sure how well the linked article machine-translates but it basically says he was banned for bending corners on the aces and kings in decks at the Ambassador in Prague - they don't mention infrared marks. Based on a warning from the Ambassador he was then instabanned when he tried to play in another casino next door and then later banned from the Hilton (it's not clear under what circumstances). The source is Tony Felfel, former manager of the Casino Ambassador.

One hopes that the Rio / Nevada Law Enforcement have been made aware they should be inspecting the decks switched out of those games particularly for bent corners.
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:12 AM   #20
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A reason to ban sunglasses at the table? I'm in.
If it's the device I think it is, they also provide contact lenses :-/
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:15 AM   #21
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sick hope it gets fixed for you guys sake :/
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:20 AM   #22
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Why not have floor try on his glasses and look at the decks used against Byron mid match? Seems like the simplest way to catch him and also stop a potential cheat from advancing yet another round.
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:21 AM   #23
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yeah he is indeed quite well-known in CZ for cheating. i just wonder how he would get to mark the cards...
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:26 AM   #24
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Having the ink all over his hands would be enough to mark the cards once he's dealt them. They should have done what a previous poster mentioned and tried the sunglasses on mid match.
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:29 AM   #25
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yeah he is indeed quite well-known in CZ for cheating. i just wonder how he would get to mark the cards...

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He thought he was stalling in the beginning to give himself a better shot to win at a higher blind level. He said he would stall by rechecking his cards at a bunch of different angles when it was clear he made up his mind to fold already.

This is the way he did it probably.

Edit: the balls on this guy. One thing is to do it in smaller donkament in Cyprus, but at the WSOP, HU?!
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