Don’t you guys think he would just donate a random dog rather than his own unless he felt guilty about something?
I think this is pretty clear cut evidence of a guilty conscience.

The goooooooooood karma.......start ball rolling on these scumbags..........win the WSOP 250k.

Donating your own dog isn't that bad. You can just buy another one that looks just like it.

lolol wow

Dan Smith is a good guy

+1000000

The fact that the poker community is so rallied around banning Ali, Bryn but so silent on Foxen shows what a clown world all of poker is.

The exact same people who are saying "oh we can't believe there's no accountability in poker, poker community is pathetic" want to give a pass to certain players just because they're popular.

This isn't about cheating or accountability. It's good old human tribal politics, Foxen has the popular kids in the poker "world" at his side so is trying to bully out the unpopular kids.

I am in no way affiliated with Ali, Schindler etc and if there's good evidence they cheated, ban them for life from every event, I'm in favor of that. But if you're one of these idiots who constantly take shots at those guys for being cheaters but buddies up to Foxen and doesn't mention that he should be banned as well, you're just a hypocritical little toadie taking part in some stupid little political theater while pretending to care about game integrity.

Well, I one scenario you have a husband and wife that just so happened to end up at a final table together. On the other, you have a scaled and somewhat organized RTA machine.

Alex Foxxen is popular? Is there a definition of popular I am missing?

The whole situation looks to me like old dudes trying to bully a young and far better player without any serious evidence or anything to do with Live poker, which is a totally different beast from online. For online poker as well, there is 0 evidence, only that he stops playing at some specific time live?
From a moral standpoint, we got Helmuth, who promotes UB/AP, where people literally watch opponents' cards, debating with Doug Polk about moral of the game. Polk rise also gets me concerned every time I'm thinking about it. He also turns out nerdcissist ponzi promoter and this is the only thing that we certainly know about.
If you ask me Ill be more fine with Ali at the poker table then Pink hair multi accounter dude, colluder or moral compass of the poker world him self Doug lets go play hu 100/200 if I dont like anything u saying about me.

The situation with RTA and live tournaments imo is similar to the situation where athletes get too short bans for PEDs.

An athlete who uses PEDs will still get the benefit of his drug use after his two year or whatever ban is done. The illicit muscle gains facilitated by PEDs is still there, so bans should be a lot longer or imo permanent.

Someone who has been or is using RTA online will get an absurd amount of training in making GTO decisions in all kind of spots. Its a lot easier to learn while playing, getting real time input on what to do in all kind of spots, than it is to look up the spots later, run sims, and then try to remember those results when you come in a similar spot again later. Its both more effective/less time consuming way of learning than studying, and its also easier to retrieve the info from memory when its been learned this way.

Its a lot easier to retrieve something from memory when its been stored in episodic memory (which is what happens to a larger degree if you learn something when for instance getting input from RTA while you are sitting in a difficult spot at a final table) rather than rote memory (how you learn while studying with solvers or ICMizer etc). This explains why we see that players like Ali and Schindler are so proficient also while playing live where they dont have access to RTA - their RTA use has given them enormous advantages in learning, retaining, and retrieving GTO knowledge.

Similar to athletes being banned long term for PEDs, RTA users online should also be banned from live tournaments as their ability to make GTO poker decisions have been illicitly aquired.

You think someone who used steroids still has the benefit of them 2 years after the fact? Ooo boy you couldn't be more wrong. I used the sauce for 15 years and 2 years off its all gone. Not even remotely close comparison to RTAs

Apparently Galfond lit them up on PokerGo last night.

Anyone got a link?

https://twitter.com/NormanChad/statu...90568378847232

twitter thread with the quote

Anecdotal evidence from some random roidmonkey trumps scientific studies, sure..

What scientific studies? From everything I've heard (or read), when a person cycles out their steroids, any effects vanish and they go back to where they were pre-PEDs. i.e. just as Collecto said.

But when it comes to PEDs (and similarly, RTA) having a lasting benefit, I think you're both right. You're just talking about two different control groups. To keep up the analogy, consider two hypothetical persons A and B. Person #1 is a non-athlete who has not lifted a weight since high school PE 15 years ago. Person #2 is active, and already lifts 3-4 days per week as part of an overall training regimen.

#1 starts pumping iron and uses PEDs to aid his routine. Simultaneously, #2 also begins introducing PEDs to his existing workout. Call that point Year 0. Both people use the same course for two years, then stop at the same time (Year 2). Then they continue to lift without steroids for two more years (Year 4).

Kebabkungen, your hypothetical poker player is the equivalent of Person #1. His transformation from Year 0 to Year 4 will be night-and-day different. However, you can't fully credit PEDs for that, because a lot of the credit for that goes to the weight room regimen.

Collecto's guy (himself) is more like #2, and the difference between specimens from Year 0 to year 4 will be minimal. He was already at a different starting point than #1, and once everything cycles out, he'll largely return to that starting point. From Year 0 to Year 2, he transformed because of the PEDs. From Year 2 to Year 4, he went back to his Year 0 state, as the effects of the PEDs wore off.

So now go back to poker players using RTA. A solver is like the weight training. Perfectly legit resource that makes you better. The RT is like the roids, it's the component of RTA that is considered cheating. Kebabkungen, your player is better in the long run because of the legit A, not because of the forbidden RT.

If it's truly "all gone" after 2 years, you've done something terribly wrong.

The validity of that analogy is still so-so, but someone who used PEDs will absolutely have *some* lasting benefit, widely ranging anywhere from (at the bottom end) the retaining of muscle memory, increased mitochondrial density, and lingering upregulation at the androgen receptor, up to (at the high end) someone maintaining a high percentage/majority of the muscle mass they gained (yes, this happens).

All these scientific studies you posted, so many

Oh brother

Did Ali play the 50k?

Nope, brynn and jake did though

Kristen Imsirovic Poker and Lifestyle Vlog

https://www.youtube.com/@ImsirovicKristen

WTF? Dislike!

Are Ali und Jake playing WSOP?

Yep, Schindler 9th in 25k.

And I thought I saw Ali's name in chip counts for an event.