Just saw this video. Great work putting it together. Case closed.

Looks like wikipedia decided to keep Alec's page edited down pretty mild. At least it still has the angleshooting section.

Yes but too bad it says he was accused *after* Doug's video. He was accused by this thread before Doug's video. I don't know why Doug would be mentioned at all given 2+2 wasn't mentioned. Maybe because it was the first step out of the very specific 2+2 site to the wider youtube site but still, he was accused before Doug's vid.

The reason it says "after Doug's video" is because Alec is blaming Doug for all the hate. He's saying Doug made up the angling allegation and that it didn't happen. He's saying that Doug edited his video in such a way as to make it look like Alec angled Wolf even though it didn't happen.

This is obvious by the sycophants that are defending Alec in the comments section of his YouTube videos. Anyone who calls Alec an angler or cheater is said to be a Doug Polk fanboy etc. etc. This is a common tactic cheaters use to divert attention away from them.

The fuuny thing about the fraudster Torelli is his long awaited response to the allegation against him that he had secretly ADDED a $5000 chip onto the table was non existent - the complete charlatan totally avoided responding to this proven allegation, and tried the abusers traditional defective defence, of pretending to believe THEY are the victim - in this case, the victim ofDoug Polk unfairly pointing out Torelli is a lying evasive conman. When of course, everyone can see for themselves Torelli is a lying evasive conman.

I posted on Torelli's YouTube, he replied by referring me to his defence, but his crappy defence avoided responding to the allegations against him.

edits just made to his wiki page to more accurately reflect the truth.

dont let him put the torelli spin on this one guys.

I've been battling a bit on that wiki page, but it's tough. There are two people that keep trying to delete the entire controversy section. Meanwhile, the whole page was considered for deletion because of notability requirements. This is why the chip dumping section was removed, in order to keep it compliant and prevent the page getting nuked. Two plus two threads are not considered notable by Wiki nerds, so I don't expect this new addition to last.

you're wrong about his wife she knows he cheated and scum bagged Wolf for $10,000 and she has no problem with it, she's just as big of a narcissistic sociopath as Alec is she was in his video laughing about the whole thing, they live a jet set lifestyle showing off on social media and both have no problems what so ever about stealing $10,000 from someone

but guys, realize this, Alec is a winning player at 5k/10k live cash, that should give everyone tons of optimism towards the future of poker

First, I would have never bothered posting what follows if Torelli hadn't behaved so deviously in the minutes, days, and weeks after the angle. I almost think that that behavior is worst than the actual angle. If he had of manned up, come clean, and taken responsibility to begin with this thread would have probably died weeks ago. Instead it has become like rust and it will never sleep.

This following is a current post on wikipedia. Let's post it here for posterity sake in case it gets deleted or manipulated again.

For the record all this information can be found in this twoplustwo thread and this thread was the originator of the story.

A section on Alex Torelli's wikipedia page as of today's date:

Controversy

"In 2017, Torelli was first accused of engaging in angle shooting during a televised episode of Poker Night in America by members on the forum 2+2. Later, professional poker player Doug Polk released a video questioning the ethics of the hand played during the episode. During the hand, larger denomination chips totaling $10,000 were placed behind smaller denomination chips in Torelli's stack of poker chips. Poker rules require larger denomination chips have to be in plain view. This influenced Torelli's opponent Daniel Wolf, who ended up losing $10,000 more than he believed was at stake.

Following the hand, Torelli stated that he used his opponent's surprise at the discovery of the high-value chips as a "read" to determine that his opponent's hand was mediocre. Later, Torelli posted a video on YouTube faulting his opponent for not knowing his chip stack size."

I like this line a lot but I would change it to...

"Later, Torelli posted a video on YouTube accusing Doug Polk of misrepresenting what happened and blaming Daniel Wolfe for not knowing his chip stack size."

I think this line better expresses to the reader the ploy of blaming others Turdelli used after he was caught red handed.

I agree so maybe those doing the wiki posts could consider your change.

Either way, I like the wiki post.

+1

LMFAO - small world

I should have came here a long time ago. I didn't realize how much of the community was involved in this. TEAM WORK MAKES THE DREAM WORK. This one has definitely been a whole community effort.

Still my favorite post in this thread. Reminds me of the "nothing to see here" scene in Naked Gun.

https://youtu.be/pdFl__NlOpA

sick flow, I would finish/hold on to this, you might need it, around the end of this month, just saying.

Lets try another angle at this..

Was it worth it?
He put in allot of work after he won the extra 10k.
What is his hourly after making the video etc.. over that 10k?

Hey Folks,

Heard a relevant piece of gossip today that might either deserve it's own separate thread or be fitting for this one.

According to some high stakes players in the know, back during last years Main event when Joshua Beckley final tabled it, during the period between final tabling and the actual November 9 Josh was approached by Torelli. Alec befriended him and discussed with Josh how he should move to Florida so he can coach him, be a life coach, work out, improve his life and that sort of thing. He was supposed to coach him also for the final table and offered to do all this for $80k. So after Josh paid him Alec just completely vanished, ghosted.

I personally don't know anything but heard this information from individuals in the know in high stakes circles.

Thank you for sharing that, Joshua.

it's good but it's no horse story

Sounds too dumb to be true

This is a story that happened to a friend of mine. The veracity of this story is questionable but I think that it speaks to the character of Angler Torelli.

My friend was walking his dog in Las Vegas circa. 2012 and it was a hot day and his dog was dehydrated so he decided to stop by a local corner store to get some water for his dog. He asked a stranger outside to hold onto his dog for a second and to his surprise when he started talking he realized it was Alec Torelli. Alec agreed to watch his dog for a second and when he came back outside Alec was talking to this hot young woman who was also walking her dog and petting my friends dog talking to Alec etc. Well Alec had been pretending that the dog was his and when my friend came up he was actually walking away with her and my friends dog! My friend wanting to play it cool and not blow up Torelli's spot asked if he could exchange phone numbers and "hang out" with him later. They traded numbers but when my friend called it was a bogus phone number! And Alec never called him back either to return his dog. What a scumbag!!

Alec Torelli stole my friend's dog!!!

Ah I see, people think I'm trolling perhaps. If other people want to discuss with high stakes players they know they can check into this and verify if they want. This was no troll post. Quote later once it finally comes out.

has he DM'd anyone on twitter? lol

Well, there's this:

https://twitter.com/AlecTorelli/stat...55449589215232

Joshua Beckley placed #2 in the 2015 WSOP Main Event.

Alec did befriend him on Twitter in August 2015, after Beckley made the final table and before November 9.

The timeline checks out. Someone should message Beckley to verify.