Seems pretty obvious to me that if the payment was straight up then he would have just transferred the funds from his account, not chip-dumped.
But then I see the Epic Poker League as a sham, and would like to see it fail. I also have little respect for those pros taking part in it. I hear they get treated well, and assume they want some piece of the pie down the road if it is on offer, regardless of the obvious dodginess of all involved.

when alec left the thread the second time after getting owned again he responded by writing a blog about how great his car was. a car pictured with the plate 'TYPERKY'.

think that middle finger to viffer and 2+2 sums up alec's attitude to the issue and his brush with this website. thread and blog worth a read though for epic self-owning pretentiousness.

There are a lot of bets you can take. Think Viffer offered 5k bet that Alec wouldn't take a lie detector test about this...and maybe another bet that he would FAIL if he did. If you are so confident in his rep perhaps you should earn some easy doe.

I've only read the 1st page of that thread but what sticks out is Alec vouches for a guy and then repeatedly says he always knew he was, '...a gambler, a degen, and a liar'.

yeahp.

perky could have transferred Alec 150k on tilt np, but since they used a betting tell to chip dump playing HU, its so unusual that Alec had to have questioned it, and undoubtedly knew the situation was unethical, at the very least

Well is chip dumping allowed? Maybe he thought they were disguising it with betting tells so the poker site wouldn't know they were chip dumping.

BTW I haven't read the whole thread, just this NVG thread so I am just offering an opinion on this one comment, I don't have any opinion on who is guilty and who is not overall.

Just spent the past couple of hours reading through that thread. I think that anybody still giving the benefit of the doubt to Alec (i.e. that he might not have been aware about the the chip dump being from a backer's money) is either:

a) lying
b) biased or deluded (e.g. friend / colleague of Alec)
c) incredibly naive
d) trolling

hmmmm... gonna have to go with b) for this one

Why do people say this every time there is a scam like poker is somehow more corrupt than any other avenue of life? **** there's murders,child abuse, robberies, fraud etc on the news every day in Ireland and we're only a country with around 4 million people.

fyp.

Dom,

I have zero issues with you and have pretty much always enjoyed your posting. With regard to the latter bolded I tend to agree with you but the former? You're high as a kite if you believe this. C'mon man...

Maybe they'll drink the kool-aid. It doesn't happen often, but sometimes problems take care of themselves.

It is hard to blame the non-poker-playing general public for this because she absolutely goes out of her way to be characterized as such everywhere. She's "the best female pro ever", "a poker icon" etc, etc. It's pretty disgusting and totally contrived, like those photos of her where she actually looks female.

Alec Traheho is not his name for the record. A couple people seemed confused. Traheho is his 2+2 handle.

Well, its a billion dollar industry involving a million+ people. Backers aren't gonna start threads saying their horse shipped the nightly 20k and promptly sent the money afterwards. People are being scammed because many poker players are irresponsible with their money and sometimes they take chances with investments in order to chase profit. It's really not that surprising if you think about it.

OP - your cliffs are wrong, you've got this the wrong way round. Viffer was the one requesting this prop bet. Traheho accepted.

Viffer, if you want to take this further, I urge you to present your case to the EPL board. I would genuinely be happy to defend myself (I've always wanted to be a lawyer), reach a verdict and put your rumors to rest. In the mean time, I would appreciate it if you kept my reputation in tact.

Thanks for your understanding.
Alec Torelli

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For some reason, that line really amuses me. I don't care enough to spend the time to actually look into this and see who has the right side of the argument (although I hope it's Viffer, since the TV version of him is awesome), but that lawyer line deserved some recognition.

Beautiful.

I believe it may technically be a violation of the TOS. However, there are much easier ways to pay off a debt. Disguising a dump with sizing tells is not one of them.

another fail for the epic poker league... sweet ethics committee ladss

Alec was at a 200/400 nl game at aria with myself, eddie ting, viffer, robl, and andre. Viffer posted the 50k as alec requested and then Alec refused to post, saying he was tired and couldn't do it. This is pure bull**** as we had 2 arbitrators present that Alec was ok with and Viffer posted his money, I think Alec should lose this by default.

Stealing/scamming is becoming such a norm in the poker world that it's no longer NVG worthy for $150k. You need multi million dollar scams involving ivey and insolvent billion dollar companies.

No, look up his old posts. He's an old school internet bustout who grinds fishy private live games now.

There were more lolworthy posts and links in that thread.

wat? Blitz is friends with Alec, no? This post is a level, sarcasm, or errorneous. Assuming Dan and Alec are still friends, even if this were true, Dan would just simply not post it if anything.

Also, if this did actually play out as mentioned, isn't this stealing equity from viffer? Offering a $50k bet and then when someone actually posts deciding to decline and say loljkman.

Who is Perky? From naively reading this thread, it seems like he is the one most at fault here, on several counts.

Mods, please change the title of this thread to Alec "traheho" Torelli helped steal $150,000 according to Vifer, wont respond to accusations

and wow, if this doesnt show Alec is guilty then I don't know what will

BOOM. HEADSHOT.