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07-08-2009 , 11:44 PM
I'm still hung up on "these are highly respected people"

they are politicians for god's sake...maybe they are 'respected' in whatever circles you run in - but not mine...
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07-08-2009 , 11:50 PM
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I think I just pissed myself.
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07-08-2009 , 11:51 PM
+1 for donating to another charity
+1 for trying to leverage out the UB names
+1 for admo

GL with pregnancy.
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07-09-2009 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TxSteve
I'm still hung up on "these are highly respected people"

they are politicians for god's sake...maybe they are 'respected' in whatever circles you run in - but not mine...
Policy wonks are not politicians. The person I know at CAP graduated top of his class at Stanford and Harvard Law school and turned down better paying jobs so he could do policy research and writing. Other folks there have similar credentials, though many have moved into the Obama Administration.

Here are the first three bios I sampled:

A former adjunct professor at Northeastern Law School, the New Jersey native received his BA magna cum laude from Princeton University and his JD magna cum laude from Harvard Law School.

Alterman received his B.A. in history and government from Cornell, his M.A. in international relations from Yale, and his Ph.D. in U.S. history from Stanford.

Charap holds a doctorate in political science and an M.Phil. in Russian and East European studies from the University of Oxford, where he was a Marshall scholar.

The CAP is full of people with these types of credentials. It may make me an elitist, but a non-profit organization with people of this caliber and a solid track record is, to my mind, respectable. After the Brookings Institution, it's probably the most respected think tank in DC.
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07-09-2009 , 12:22 AM
if people are 'respected' purely based on where their degrees are from - yes - that sounds elitist to me.

"people of this caliber" - again - you're defining these people based on where their degrees are from. they could be crooks; they could be criminals; they could be saints - I don't know - because I don't know anything about them (even though I do now know where they got their degrees; masters; phds)


As for CAP itself - I know nothing about them - but just skimming the first few pages of a google search - there is plenty good; and plenty bad written about them - pretty much divided up by party lines


edit: i would just add - perhaps they aren't "politicians" in the elected official sense - but certainly people who've made their living through politics (a la' Karl Rove)

Podesta - Clinton chief of staff - obama transition team president
wartell - various clinton positions
palmieri - press secretary DNC and Edwards campaign
stachelberg - Office of Management and Budget in both the George H.W. Bush and Clinton administrations
deleon - clinton appointee
goldberg - clinton work
halperin - former speech writer clinton / dean
sherry - private sector / reporter

i'll just stop there - but apparently you don't consider those people 'politicians'....i on the other hand - do

Last edited by TxSteve; 07-09-2009 at 12:30 AM.
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07-09-2009 , 12:22 AM
As Simplicitus notes, NOOW was the previous year at least. For this year, it appears to be Enough, Refugees International, and the International Rescue Committee. There's also a charity event at San Manuel Casino in California, and they also held an AUFA event during the EPT Grand Final in May.
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07-09-2009 , 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
I would say that Ante up for Africa is probably not a typical non-profit, in that they seem to exist only to run a yearly poker tournament, where the proceeds are split between Enough and another organization.

In the legal boilerplate I quoted, they mention NOOW instead of Refugees Intl. I think they did the event with NOOW last year or the year before. This looks like a legal cut-and-paste job where they didn't update the language.

If I were you I would forward your AUFA emails, and maybe this thread, to donate@americanprogress.org. I expect you will receive a more satisfactory response.
but the problem is if your write the check to AUFA you can not take a tax write off because they are not a 501(c)3 and if you write the check to CAP they just may keep the donation to pay for their Salaries and even if they forward 100% (which is impossible to know once the funds are in the CAP account) of it to Enough what % of overhead does Enough take out and how much money ends up going to direct aid
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07-09-2009 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TxSteve
if people are 'respected' purely based on where their degrees are from - yes - that sounds elitist to me.

"people of this caliber" - again - you're defining these people based on where their degrees are from. they could be crooks; they could be criminals; they could be saints - I don't know - because I don't know anything about them (even though I do now know where they got their degrees; masters; phds)


As for CAP itself - I know nothing about them - but just skimming the first few pages of a google search - there is plenty good; and plenty bad written about them - pretty much divided up by party lines


edit: i would just add - perhaps they aren't "politicians" in the elected official sense - but certainly people who've made their living through politics (a la' Karl Rove)

Podesta - Clinton chief of staff - obama transition team president
wartell - various clinton positions
palmieri - press secretary DNC and Edwards campaign
stachelberg - Office of Management and Budget in both the George H.W. Bush and Clinton administrations
deleon - clinton appointee
goldberg - clinton work
halperin - former speech writer clinton / dean
sherry - private sector / reporter

i'll just stop there - but apparently you don't consider those people 'politicians'....i on the other hand - do
you forgot to mention Steve that CAP has a purely political progressive socialist agenda funded by Billionaires George Soros,Peter B Lewis others including Barbra Streisand her Hollywood crowd....., these are the same people that back ACORN and other activist socialist organizations and of course Obama

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07-09-2009 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TxSteve
Podesta - Clinton chief of staff - obama transition team president
wartell - various clinton positions
palmieri - press secretary DNC and Edwards campaign
stachelberg - Office of Management and Budget in both the George H.W. Bush and Clinton administrations
deleon - clinton appointee
goldberg - clinton work
halperin - former speech writer clinton / dean
sherry - private sector / reporter

i'll just stop there - but apparently you don't consider those people 'politicians'....i on the other hand - do
I don't trust politicians or whores (or do I repeat myself?).
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07-09-2009 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Hughes
If you believe Admo, I'd like to shoot dice over the phone.
I believe Admo, and not an old time washed-up Texas road gambler who can't write for crap and admits the people he traveled with were blatant cheaters on more than one occasion, as well as defends pedophile cronies.

I always knew you sucked, Johnny. The last 2 weeks just caps it.
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07-09-2009 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevmath
You don't read 2+2 much if you think Annie Duke is protected here.

What you posted only named Annie, not the other person who allegedly was wronged, which you don't care to post.

What would be the purpose of naming the person/fellow poker player who was done wrong. They did nothing other than do a favor for a fellow poker player?
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07-09-2009 , 03:58 AM
Admo is just a sick human being. Teach me to be like you.
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07-09-2009 , 03:59 AM
God DAMN, when I grow up, I wanna be like Admo.

Except I think I am older than him....fml
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07-09-2009 , 04:01 AM
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I mention the Obama administration for two reasons, first because CAP has the type of access that most charities could only dream of and, second, because Obama isn't know for surrounding himself with nitwits.
I don't want to turn this into a politics thread either, but this is hilarious. Joe Biden and Reverend Wright aren't nitwits?

Please. All politicians surround themselves with idiots.
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07-09-2009 , 04:07 AM
Admo....do whatever they ask. Be nothing worse than a busload of skinny starving dark people knocking your door down imo.
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07-09-2009 , 04:13 AM
When everyone is done heaping praise on him, can somebody please explain exactly what Admo has accomplished here?
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07-09-2009 , 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pineapple888
When everyone is done heaping praise on him, can somebody please explain exactly what Admo has accomplished here?
I respect him more than any other person on 2p2. Look through all his posts for his body of work.

He must have the sickest amount of karma saved up :P
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07-09-2009 , 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pineapple888
When everyone is done heaping praise on him, can somebody please explain exactly what Admo has accomplished here?
for real?

he donated 60k to charity, for starters...
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07-09-2009 , 08:29 AM
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Whoa is this really true?

Is there another flavor of non-profitness that allows you to funnel donations to other 501(c)3 non-profits?
I know this is a long thread but I basically stated everything NOSOUP4U stated a couple of pages ago when I first posted about everything I could uncover about AUFA's non-profit status. I'm not sure of NOSOUP4U's background but again I work as an accountant in a public firm that specializes in non-profit audits. One item that NOSOUP4U stated incorrectly was that a charity must be a 501(c)3 in order for you to deduct the donation from your taxes. There are tax-exempt organizations that are not required by the IRS to obtain 501(c)3 status, however these are usually reserved for religious organizations and I would be surprised if AUFA was granted this exemption.

So, to answer your question, Admo, I am fairly positive that AUFA is not a 501(c)3 and they tell you that your donation to them is tax deductible because they will in turn donate it to a qualified 501(c)3 (CAP) for you.

I think you are in a very interesting position Admo to get some answers from AUFA. I would be very interested to find out how they respond to the questions you previously listed (which you apparently e-mailed them) about the structure of their organization. As I have stated a few times I do not believe that AUFA is a scam at all I just believe that they are simply a flow-through entity for CAP (and possibly Refugees International although the split is impossible to know). Whether the Center for American Progress deserves your charitable donation is a decision you would need to make on your own.
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07-09-2009 , 09:46 AM
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They haven't responded to the questions I sent. I'd like to make sure that money is going to refugees, not after-parties at PURE.
that's the sentence i was "hoping" to read for 35 pages.
now that it's coming from you makes it even better.
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07-09-2009 , 12:04 PM
Admo you are going to get audited.
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07-09-2009 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pineapple888
When everyone is done heaping praise on him, can somebody please explain exactly what Admo has accomplished here?
to be looked as a hero by all the 2+2 fanboys.
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07-09-2009 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pineapple888
When everyone is done heaping praise on him, can somebody please explain exactly what Admo has accomplished here?
I think there are a number of obvious benefits from the course of action taken by Admo. The extent of such, cannot be quantified at this time:

1. This thread alone has brought awareness to many issues (real and possible) regarding charities and how money goes from your pocket to the purported beneficiary.

2. It puts focus on how charities and fund raising events use funds for administrative purposes (such as an after-party at PURE ... assumption on my behalf, but still its hard to stomach ANTE UP footing this bill - wait for it - while there are children starving in Africa).

3. Anything Annie Duke is associated with should be open game for questioning as long as she refuses to come clean. Again, organizations should be more careful in choosing their business associates. No matter how you want to spin it, AD's hands are dirty and she has done little to clear the air (except for issue self-serving statements of little substance to the UB scandal).

4. The behavior of the staff after the tourney was beyond the pale. On that basis alone, Admo (imo) was morally justified in changing charities.

5. Admo has done nothing but put the ball in Ante Up's court to answer some questions and clear up some concerns. So far, they have not issued appropriate responses and it looks like a different charity will get the donation.

Now, I am sure one might say: "Well, you should have looked into this before you decided to play ... once you enterd, you make a tacit agreement to donate to the host charity." Perhaps that should be given some weight, but its not that simple.

No matter what Admo's intentions were, at some point, he was not going to be satisfied with handing money over to a charity fronted by Annie Duke without her answering some questions. After being harassed after the tourney, Admo left his money at the cage and issued some simple instructions explaining that he will settle up at a later date under some specified conditions.

Now, in the interim, and (it seems) in response to this thread, come questions have come up regarding the "charity" itself. Is it now wrong to insist on having some fundamental questions answered regarding the charity? If its all on the up-and-up, I am sure this will be sorted in short-order and everyone will be happy.

Unfortunately (and this should not be lost on us) "Hunter" who apparently issued an email with some purported authority, brought the issue out in the open. At this point, Admo is pushed into a no-win situation (at least if he decides to donate to Ante Up) since the negative publicity has already been released and any donation to Ante Up at this point will be carry the taint of coercion.

Now, since Hunter and Ante Up decided to take this course of action and deprive Admo of the benefit of the bargain, they will only get their donation under the conditions set by Admo.

Last edited by Oski; 07-09-2009 at 12:39 PM.
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07-09-2009 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pineapple888
When everyone is done heaping praise on him, can somebody please explain exactly what Admo has accomplished here?
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Originally Posted by GobboFan
to be looked as a hero by all the 2+2 fanboys.
A person does not maintain a track record of outstanding decisions if this is the motivation.
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07-09-2009 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Oski
A person does not maintain a track record of outstanding decisions if this is the motivation.
come on now, admo seems to have one objective on these forums. self proclaimed martyrdom. he has played the whole 'im a victim' complex down to a tee.
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